[talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Fri Oct 23 08:50:24 UTC 2020




Oct 23, 2020, 10:18 by forster at ozonline.com.au:

> I am not morally responsible if an ex partner kills a woman in a women's refuge, he is, but I won't knowingly contribute to the process. And it doesn't wash with me to say they should put a guard at the door because I have mapped a refuge.
>
Not mapping ones that are private and not signed falls under not mapping private info.

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information
for an attempt to gather consensus opinion.

>  Re access=no, if I recollect correctly they still display in OSM, only slightly more red.
>
This changed, now they display greish (less prominent)

>
>  You probably wouldn't notice. I haven't checked data users such as Osmand and Strava.
>
Any decent router will not route over them.

> Graeme
> Thanks for your thoughts on 'how to'. I have given it some thought and don't have any really good answers. Please think of a better scheme.
>
> I mentioned a Don'tRender=yes tag but worry it may be too complicated for the benefit that results but here goes:
>
> a land owner or manager can add a Don'tRender=yes tag
> OSM.org map would honour the tag in map mode
>
This is a bad idea.

> A licence condition for data users is that they have a public policy for the Don'tRender tag
>
That is fortunately impossible.

>
> By having the item visible at edit time it eliminates the cycle of addition and deletion and edit wars.
>
You can do that by mapping line and tagging it with note.

Note that deleting existing paths with "I do not want them rendered" is not an acceptable edit.

> Let the mapping community decide whether the claim to be a land owner or manager is credible, if two organisations have credible claim to that then Don'tRender=disputed
>
Russia does not get to decide whatever their military bases can be mapped and rendered in OSM.

I knowingly and deliberately violated 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_data_in_China 
by mapping objects in China.
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