[talk-au] Street Lamps

Phil Wyatt phil at wyatt-family.com
Mon Jun 14 02:23:30 UTC 2021

Hi Andrew,


Hopefully someone on the list will be able to give a bit more background on the waiver request from Jan 2019, if not, it might pay to send another request using the waiver template.




I would halt your work until the waiver has been signed off


Cheers - Phil


From: Andrew Munday <dazzilitchi8 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 14 June 2021 10:17 AM
To: Sebastian S. <mapping at consebt.de>
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Street Lamps


At the moment I'm a little concerned about how at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue#Australian_Capital_Territory it says that the government hasn't given permission for anyone to use the dataset just yet. Would it be better to just revert my edits for now until we have a waiver. I don't want to be doing anything illegal. 


On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 12:10, Sebastian S. <mapping at consebt.de <mailto:mapping at consebt.de> > wrote:

Hi Andrew,
Great that you reach out to the community.

For osm imports planning and community buy in are important steps prior to the actual import.

This is to ensure high quality imports, avoiding reverts and can also get you additional hands doing the work.

There are different ways of doing this. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines will give you some guidance.

Essentially you should be writing down what you want to do and how you want to do it.

The how should cover preparation of the data, tags you want to use, how to deal with existing osm nodes and objects.
For large imports it's also suggested to use a separate account. 

As I see it there are two ways of going about it. One is to sketch the idea and work through the details with the community, then write the import page on the wiki as a summary.
The other approach would be to start the import page first then seek feedback from the community.

In either case please don't feel discouraged by any of this. 

Thanks for your contributions.

On 13 June 2021 11:02:31 am AEST, Andrew Munday <dazzilitchi8 at gmail.com <mailto:dazzilitchi8 at gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "how I'm mapping into the OSM tag schema" but for street lamps I was placing nodes and using the tag "highway"="street_lamp" which is how the wiki says to tag them.

As for dealing with conflicts, I used overpass turbo to query all the existing street lamps and made sure to do my test uploads in suburbs that didn't already have any street lamps in them. I'm not really sure how I'd merge with any existing street lamps at the moment.

Hopefully this goes to the mailing list. I don't really know what I'm doing.


On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 20:42, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> > wrote:

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines


For starters I'd like to see how you're mapping into the OSM tag schema, how you plan to deal with conflicts (if any are already mapped in the ACT).


On Sat, 12 Jun 2021, 10:03 am Andrew Munday, <dazzilitchi8 at gmail.com <mailto:dazzilitchi8 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone. I'm not sure what I'm doing with this mailing list thing so bear with me. I'm building an augmented reality game ala Pokemon Go and one of the objects in the game are street lamps. I've been adding a lot of changes around my house in Canberra for around a year and the other day I found out about automated edits and figured I could use the street lamps dataset at https://www.data.act.gov.au/Infrastructure-and-Utilities/ACT-Streetlights/cfpr-4tpw to speed up the process. I did look at the automatic edits code of conduct page and I couldn't figure out who I should contact about my plans to do it so I submitted a few changesets and ticked the box saying I wanted someone to review my edits which got someone to tell me to message here. I'm happy to undo the changesets if needed but I'd like some guidance on how to do this sort of thing.

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