[talk-au] Mapping non-existent streets?

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There already is a clear policy that covers this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what.27s_on_the_ground

 

From: Adrian Hobbs <adrian.hobbs at grapevine.com.au> 
Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2021 11:27
To: Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
Cc: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Mapping non-existent streets?

 

I am but only an occasional editor of OSM, but it seems to me that issues like this need to be addressed in some agreed and co-ordinated process, rather than ad-hoc. With rising water levels and global warming this is going to become a major issue. Geographical features are disappearing (islands, glaciers) or drastically altered (coastlines, rivers, lakes). Along with this are human infrastructure losses. 

Discussions like this re a single street and a few houses will be occuring in thousands of localities around the world. A standard approach needs to be sorted.

As an aside, what is done now in places that regularly lose chunks of coastline e.g. bits of California, western UK, etc. Or drastically altered after earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, major landslides, etc.

Cheers

Adrian Hobbs

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On 1 May 2021, at 10:49, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> > wrote:

I agree with cleary, to map per what's on the ground.

 

The houses can still be mapped with addr:street=Esplanade even without the street.

 

razed:highway=residential or removed:highway=residential I have no strong view on for this situation.

 

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 09:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 09:37, cleary <osm at 97k.com <mailto:osm at 97k.com> > wrote:


I'd say that we map what we can confirm "on the ground". The inclusion of non-existent features in OSM is of no help to anyone.  In rural areas, there are whole villages in which plans were approved and gazetted but never constructed or, having once existed, have disappeared as the population disappeared - google maps occasionally includes some of these streets but we shouldn't.

 

So don't do anything about it - just mark the addresses as The Esplanade & leave it at that?

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

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