[talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

[Simon Poole]

This is a somewhat unsolved issue in OSM modelling, as both area 
(extent) and node (assuming it is not simply the centroid of the area) 
convey geometric information that the other cannot. IMHO best would be 
to have a similar concept as we do for administrative areas that works 
for "places" in a more general sense, that is that allows simple 
deduplication of the elements.

A rather epic discussion on the topic can be found here: 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2816

Simon

PS: wondering why Gruyere has that name.

Am 05.11.2021 um 07:53 schrieb cleary:
> Ideally suburbs would have a relation for the boundary PLUS a node for the "label node" as part of the relation.   I'm not so familiar with Victorian locations, but this example for South Albury in NSW is an example:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5901488
>
> Where there is a boundary and a separate place node, I would add the place node to the relation and its role would be "label node".
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Nov 2021, at 2:15 PM, Dian Ågesson wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I would appreciate the thoughts of the community with regards to suburb
>> representations.
>>
>> In a recent change set
>> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/113355648) a node was
>> introduced for Gruyere. Gruyere is on the urban boundary, but is
>> technically in Metropolitan Melbourne. As such, it straddles the border
>> between what could be considered a bona fide suburb, and an independent
>> town.
>>
>> Mick has correctly pointed out that many of the other localities in the
>> area are represented by both an area and a node.
>>
>> Is this the way all suburbs should be represented? Or is it an
>> urban/rural distinction?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dian
>>
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