[talk-au] Service Roads?

[Andrew Hughes]

Thanks All,

Graeme: naming might help, but I am not sure if they would conflict with an
official signposted name.

Dian: Interesting with the "frontage road". Yes, that is suitable but the
tagging guidelines do not have anything unique about these roads. They are
simply the standard (non _link) highway=* tags. Perhaps "service"="frontage
road" would help, but I don't know if this would collide with other
conventions.

Thanks all!





On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 22:13, Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> From your description in example A, it sounds like you are describing
> frontage roads (what we would call service roads in Australia). Rather
> confusingly, the service tag isn’t the best tag for these roads;
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road has a good explanation.
>
> Dian
>
> On 2021-11-19 15:56, Andrew Hughes wrote:
>
> Hi Again,
>
> With regards to service roads. I would like to know if there is a tagging
> convention that would provide a distinction between roads that appear to
> all fall under highway=service for the following examples:
>
> Example A: This is what is referred to "traditionally" as a "service road"
> (outside the OSM world that is). I'd describe it as,a minor road that is
> associated with a major road, it runs parallel to its major road
> counterpart and gives general access to the local area so that the major
> road is occupied by traffic that does not want to stop in the local area
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118171809
>
> Example B: A way (perhaps even a driveway or parking_isle?) that provides
> access to a carpark. It's not really paired with a major road and is not
> designed to "split" the local traffic from traffic passing through as per
> A  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28262128
>
>
> The main difference I feel between A and B is that A is really part of a
> major/bigger arterial way and services the local needs that the arterial
> way will not. B is not really a thoroughfare and is more in line with the
> "destination" rather than a thoroughfare. You only use the B way to
> access the carpark(s). Someone else might have a better interpretation
> however I do feel like on the ground they are very different roads and
> tagging with highway=services alone doesn't reflect that.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Andrew
>
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