[talk-au] Use of macrons in name:en

[cleary]

I do not support adding variants to the standard alphabet. 

The English language has, for many generations, incorporated words from other languages but used the standard alphabet to represent the sounds of those words.  The word "cafe" had a mark over the final letter in the original French "café" but we use the word daily without that mark, whatever it is called, over the final letter and I don't feel that we are dis-respecting the origins of the word. 

Where locations are named in multiple languages, it is appropriate that the spelling and alphabet be consistent with each particular language, whether it is Pitjantjatjara or French or English or Bulgarian.  

I noted that the Australian Government website   https://www.awe.gov.au/parks-heritage/national-parks/uluru-kata-tjuta-national-park/culture-and-history/history-park#the-1930s--tourism-begins  refers respectfully to Kata Tjuta, spelling its name using only the standard alphabet.  In a quick perusal, I noted this government website used Pitjantjatjara spelling for one word but printed the whole word in italics to indicate that it was non-standard text.

To recapitlate, I support using the standard alphabet for the particular language.  The standard English language does not use macrons althgugh standard Pitjantjatjara does. 

In determining the language to be used as the primary name for any location or landmark, I think OSM should be consistent with the primary usage of the official government naming authority in the particular jurisdiction. I am not aware of the official naming authority in the Northern Territory but, If it uses Pitjantjatjara language and alphabet, then OSM should follow.



On Wed, 24 Nov 2021, at 12:14 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> There is a good discussion going on at talk-nz about use of macrons and 
> names 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nz/2021/thread.html#318
>
> There was talk about if macrons should appear in the English name 
> (name:en), which got me checking Uluṟu and Kata Tjuṯa.
>
> So should that be tagged as
>
> name=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:en=Kata Tjuta
> name:pjt Kata Tjuṯa
>
> or
>
> name=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:en=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:pjt Kata Tjuṯa
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7474225
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