[talk-au] Fwd: Cycling on Victorian paths

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Sharing reply to list.

Sebastian, when you reply to messages, please "Reply To All" as that will
also send it to the list.

If you only "Reply", your message will only go to the person who sent it
(in this case, me), NOT the list, so nobody else will see it.

Thanks

Graeme


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Sebastian Azagra Flores <s.azagra at me.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 at 14:00
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>


Yes agreed with your comments below, but those are exceptions to the rule.
For avoidance of doubt, you cannot ride on a footpaths unless you meet
those specific criteria - one of which is a medical exemption.

The problem with signage in the state of Victoria is that it would indicate
that you can ride on a certain path and rather than indicate that it’s not
permitted.


On 3 Oct 2021, at 2:00 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> wrote:





On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 at 08:17, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au <
talk-au at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> the strict rules the cyclists must follow and not ride on footpaths due to
> Victorian Road Rules. Victorian cyclists know that we are not permitted to
> ride of footpaths.
>

Not arguing with you but:
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-rules/a-to-z-of-road-rules/bicycles

(Under "Infrastructure related rules" if it doesn't open)

"You can ride on a footpath if you:

   - are a child under the age of 13
   - are a person 13 and over who is accompanying a child under the age of
   13
   - are an adult 18 or over who is cycling with a young child in a child
   seat attached to their bicycle, or with a child pedalling on a bike
   attachment at the back of an adult bicycle
   - have been given and are following the conditions on a medical
   certificate that says you have a disability that makes it difficult for you
   to ride on the road. You need to follow the conditions on your medical
   certificate and show it to a police officer or authorised person when asked
   [or?] are an adult accompanying someone with a medical certificate cycling
   on a footpath."

So a blanket bicycle=no on *all* footpaths is wrong.

I would think it should be bicycle=designated, which means that signage &
local laws would then apply?

Members of the community have even sought confirmation of permissions from
> Vic police who have confirmed to the affirmative that unless a path is
> specifically signed to be used by a cyclist, then cyclists are not
> permitted to use it from a legal perspective.
>

I'd like to know what they're basing that on?

 Thanks

Graeme
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