[talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for that, Andy.

In that case, the definitions in iD probably need to be updated /
changed, as when you're mapping any form of highway=*, the "Allowed
Access" options & explanations include designated: "Access allowed
according to signs or specific local laws".

Thanks

Graeme

Thanks

Graeme


On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 at 19:40, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 03/10/2021 04:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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> I would think it should be bicycle=designated, which means that signage & local laws would then apply?
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> (on the very narrow question of what "bicycle=designated" means in OSM)
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> "<transport mode>=designated" is a somewhat confusingly named tag - it sounds like it ought to mean what you say above, but in practice the definition at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated is actually:
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> "indicates that a route has been specially designated (typically by a government) for use by a particular mode (or modes) of transport"
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> It's a way of saying "you might have a right to get from A to B via X, Y or Z, but the route via X has been specifically constructed for your mode of transport so you should go that way".
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> An example I've added myself is at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/894921545#map=17/53.36085/-1.25653 near Sheffield in the UK - there's a legal right of foot access directly across the road between the two kissing gates shown in OSM on the left of that view, but there's a sign directing foot traffic east to the roundabout where it's safer to cross the road, before walking back along the other carriageway of the road.
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> In OSM "foot=designated" is mostly used to indicate that a "highway=path" should be treated like a highway=footway for foot traffic, and bicycle=designated that a a "highway=path" should be treated like a highway=cycleway for bicycle traffic. It doesn't mean "legal access rules for this mode are not a simple yes or no and you should consult local signage and local laws".
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> Best Regards,
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> Andy
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