[talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

Adam Horan ahoran at gmail.com
Wed Oct 13 06:08:36 UTC 2021


Is this something that could be pushed to maproulette? Not as reversions,
but tasks to validate or update OSM entries that match a pattern - eg
edited by this user and now has bicycle=no, highway=footway etc?


On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 16:56, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I guess there would be nearly 0% chance that you would be able to cleanly
> revert without dealing with conflicts. It can get complicated when
> conflicts are detected by the JOSM reverter, you need to both know about
> the OSM data model well (nodes, ways, relations, tags), know about the data
> you're reverting and an understanding of the area you're working in so you
> can decide how to handle the conflict and what final state you like.
>
> Tony since you know the data and area well, did you want to work on this
> together with me? I can help out with any technical roadblocks, maybe on a
> screen share?
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 16:32, <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au> wrote:
>
>> While I'm normally all for "you made the mess, you clean it up", this
>> might
>> be something better tackled by someone with extensive experience in
>> reverting multiple changesets?
>>
>> Have we got any experts in that?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 14:13
>> To: forster at ozonline.com.au
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap-AU Mailing List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths
>>
>> I did my best to help Sebastian, but near the point where we got the first
>> launch of JOSM (he DID install Java, he DID have to move the .jar file to
>> his Applications folder, he apparently was NOT using a capital A in
>> Applications...) he suddenly went "radio silent" on me and didn't answer
>> any
>> more email ping-pongs.
>>
>> I had all primed my next email how to install a reverter, but didn't send
>> that because it seems he remained in a low gear, and running a JOSM
>> reverter
>> is for those who are, um, "in a higher gear."
>>
>> Good luck getting your data in shape, there, mates.
>>
>> SteveA
>> (where it is getting to be bedtime Tuesday night)
>>
>> > On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:06 PM, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >> Spotting these
>> >> and knowing how far back to revert to might be tricky I guess?
>> >> eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/47771844/history
>> >
>> > Yes. I have never been involved in a reversion so complex and it worries
>> me too. I presume they should be reverted in reverse date order, ie most
>> recent first. And acting in a timely manner is important, before others do
>> edits on the same objects.
>> >
>> > Taking your example, the first reversion is important and the following
>> two swapping between path and footway make little difference.
>> >
>> > Tony
>> >
>> >
>> >
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