[talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

nwastra nwastra nwastra at gmail.com
Wed Oct 13 06:30:37 UTC 2021


Hi
as you have been discussing reverting changesets, I thought I should mention that Ilya Zverev’s Simple Reverter seems to be out of action at present   https://github.com/Zverik/simple-revert/issues/19 <https://github.com/Zverik/simple-revert/issues/19> 
This discussion regarding 'Cycling on Victorian paths' has been to use the JOSM reverter which should be more suitable for the task.
Nev


> On 13 Oct 2021, at 3:52 pm, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I guess there would be nearly 0% chance that you would be able to cleanly revert without dealing with conflicts. It can get complicated when conflicts are detected by the JOSM reverter, you need to both know about the OSM data model well (nodes, ways, relations, tags), know about the data you're reverting and an understanding of the area you're working in so you can decide how to handle the conflict and what final state you like.
> 
> Tony since you know the data and area well, did you want to work on this together with me? I can help out with any technical roadblocks, maybe on a screen share?
> 
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 16:32, <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au <mailto:osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>> wrote:
> While I'm normally all for "you made the mess, you clean it up", this might
> be something better tackled by someone with extensive experience in
> reverting multiple changesets?
> 
> Have we got any experts in that?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com <mailto:steveaOSM at softworkers.com>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 14:13
> To: forster at ozonline.com.au <mailto:forster at ozonline.com.au>
> Cc: OpenStreetMap-AU Mailing List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org>>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths
> 
> I did my best to help Sebastian, but near the point where we got the first
> launch of JOSM (he DID install Java, he DID have to move the .jar file to
> his Applications folder, he apparently was NOT using a capital A in
> Applications...) he suddenly went "radio silent" on me and didn't answer any
> more email ping-pongs.
> 
> I had all primed my next email how to install a reverter, but didn't send
> that because it seems he remained in a low gear, and running a JOSM reverter
> is for those who are, um, "in a higher gear."
> 
> Good luck getting your data in shape, there, mates.
> 
> SteveA
> (where it is getting to be bedtime Tuesday night)
> 
> > On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:06 PM, forster at ozonline.com.au <mailto:forster at ozonline.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> >> Spotting these
> >> and knowing how far back to revert to might be tricky I guess?
> >> eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/47771844/history <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/47771844/history>
> > 
> > Yes. I have never been involved in a reversion so complex and it worries
> me too. I presume they should be reverted in reverse date order, ie most
> recent first. And acting in a timely manner is important, before others do
> edits on the same objects.
> > 
> > Taking your example, the first reversion is important and the following
> two swapping between path and footway make little difference.
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > 
> > 
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