[talk-au] Source material.

[Warin]

My mail program has, I think, finally caught up with this... so;

On 18/10/21 9:33 am, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
> Hi Andrew
>
> Speaking as another relatively inexperienced editor, don't be too 
> disheartened.
>
> "I used MapShareVic" It takes a bit of getting used to but OSM is very 
> fussy about allowable sources. There are good arguments for why. It 
> can be frustrating when you have a perfectly good source that has 
> given permission but you can't use it. Safest to only use what you 
> have seen on the ground.
>
> "I decided it was better to delete it and start again" The problem 
> with this is that you loose the history of the object, I try to 
> repurpose all the nodes if I can.
>
> "has deleted all the editing I spent many hours on" deleted but not 
> lost, the record remains, you might be able to use it somehow, 
> probably not.


Indeed. It is easy to undo my undoing of your data... just ask. Don't be 
afraid of disagreeing with anyone, we all make errors... and we usually 
learn best from them.


>
> Anything that has anything to do with a relation I leave to more 
> experienced mappers. Start small, leave the big stuff for experienced 
> mappers.
>
> Keep contributing.


Yes, please.


Some comments on JOSM...

Don't use it all. I don't. Use the bits you need/want. The more 
frequently you use it .. you come across things that make life easier.

Saving your work locally means it goes on your local drive, so you can 
continue editing later rather than having to upload an incomplete edit.  
Also hand when your edit is an expanding area and you don't want to go 
over the old area already edited.

There are extra tools .. the 'more tools' one has a 'replace geometry' 
where you can replace an existing way with your own new way .. it uses 
as many of the old nodes as possible and the way history remains... so 
people can see backwards in history. Very handy, when I remember!


>
> Tony
>
>> Good afternoon
>>
>> I emailed the group for the first time recently:
>>
>> *?I am a basic OSM editor. I usually just correct obvious map errors 
>> I find
>> while hiking/cycling. I have tried to be a little more ambitious 
>> every now
>> and then, but I have found it can be quite difficult to keep other 
>> editors
>> happy with what I do.?*
>>
>> I am writing to get some feedback from other members regarding an issue
>> with another editor regarding  Changeset: 112406297 | OpenStreetMap
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/112406297#map=11/-36.7730/144.6082&layers=G> 
>>
>>
>> I used MapShareVic as my source, but was told that this is not 
>> allowed. I
>> am surprised by this as MapshareVic is the official Victorian Government
>> land software.
>>
>> The background to this is that Fryers Ridge State Forest as depicted 
>> on the
>> map was completely incorrect, and I was attempting to correct it. 
>> Using iD,
>> I decided it was better to delete it and start again.
>>
>> I am trying to edit the map in good faith using iD. I have tried 
>> using JOSM
>> in the past, but found it to be too daunting and have been unable to 
>> find
>> any good tutorials on YouTube.
>>
>> As far as I can tell Warin61 has deleted all the editing I spent many 
>> hours
>> on
>>
>> Maybe there is someone here who can help me get back to using JOSM?
>>
>> It would be good to see what others think about this.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Andrew Parker
>>
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