[talk-au] Tagging guidelines points - rest/parking/camping/hgv

[Bob Cameron]

Sorry I cant see where to add these points to the wiki, nor see the edit 
evolution. No doubt I'll see some disagreements, but anyway!

- Regarding "No Camping" signs within the rest area category. (Although 
it could apply to any location)
It seems a bit long winded and not really useful for rendering 
(boo-hiss-grin) that there is no direct correlation with camping keys. 
The general "on the ground" camping  that happens seems to be a case of 
"anywhere that isn't excluded", so it makes logical sense to "name" a 
(non) camping site, who says so,  then mark it as access=no. 
Rendering/reporting (boo/hiss) should exclude access=no from viable sites.

No doubt it contras the ROW wiki but things are not the same everywhere. 
And realising that camping/staying is an incredibly complex subject that 
will get even worse as more population elects to stay mobile. People 
will need to know what public places they aren't welcome in.

Also in rest areas section

- One of the dramas with local council (ie not highway) rest areas as 
leisure=park is that the name is often the park name (only/already), so 
the existence of the blue rest area "picnic table and tree" sign doesn't 
really correlate. Naming a parking area works, but it isn't a rest area. 
I don't have an answer for that one, although keep in mind that one of 
the standard sub tags in "rest area" is operator.

- Designated vs yes for hgv. I seem to remember that we don't input 
legislation "stuff", but what is on the ground. I would prefer to think 
"designated" (always) means there is a P+truck sign up, whereas "yes" 
means it happens or is (judgement) possible. Informal parking/rest areas 
would only ever have yes or no. This doesn't change the tagging so much 
in the guidelines but the prewording to what the tag and road signs 
actually equate to. I wonder if it is worth a few graphics?

- Vehicle parking sizes have worried me for a while. hgv's can double in 
size. Perhaps it should be a based on B-Double sizes? I don't have a 
viable answer for this as there will be data out there already. What 
does NHVR do for its informal (green dot) rest areas? (To do with 
capacity or size)

Cheers