[talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Aug 24 12:49:44 UTC 2022


On 24/8/22 20:45, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> non-Australian and non-surfer here but please remember that stuff you 
> map in OSM must be reasonably verifiable.
>
> If you map a great surf spot which only exists when some external 
> conditions align, then it might be hard for others to verify (they'd 
> have to wait for the conditions to align).
>
> As a non-surfer I would assume that "the wind and waves are just 
> right" is something that could make a perfect surf spot nearly 
> everywhere, and surfers would not be helped by a map showing lots of 
> spots that might be great if "the wind and waves are just right" ;)


Mapping the typical would be what interest most as that would be the 
more frequent thing and therefore the most usefull.

Using conditional tagging it should be possible to specify the right 
conditions.???

Something like

waterway:conditional=surf_break @ NE swell

surf_break=right

I'd assume that the local swell is more important than the local wind?

Verifiable ... well non surfers won't be that interested particularly if 
it does not render on common maps. That also reduces the number of non 
surfers who would use the tags to get something on the map. So I think 
only the surfers will be looking at these and they should understand the 
verification of them and if they are infrequent then they may not be of 
much interest unless significant enough to have a reputation, and that 
reputation should be enough to verify the mapping.






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