[talk-au] Tagging a house name

[Michael Collinson]

 > If I go to Officeworks and get a sign printed with the name "Bob" and 
put it on my letterbox, does that become the name of my house?

An interesting question which begs another question, what is an address? 
(warning: a bit of a philosophical ramble on a Friday night).

My global analysis so far suggests that there are basically three: 
POSTAL (so the postal service is usually involved), CADESTRAL (the 
building plot as defined by the local government and/or land 
registration body) and "HABITUAL" which is actually very powerful: if 
your Officeworks sign remains for long enough, the postman will find it 
even if not formally sanctioned by the postal service. Interestingly, in 
Ireland a "descriptive" address "The blue house called Bob, on the other 
side of the stream in the village of Inverkeith" is also formally 
acceptable - this is rare globally though.

Following a similar thread in the UK, it is evident that we don't have a 
clear definition in OSM for the addr: namespace and that makes things 
like tagging a house name a matter of debate and localisation. In Sweden 
where I usually live, properties have two completely different 
addresses: a formal postal address (always just road, house number, 
formal postal area (i.e. a city/town/village), post code) and a title 
deed "cadestral" address (unique block name, block number, block number 
subdivision number) which is used by the local council and the tax 
office. We use the postal format in the addr: namespace and again there 
is recent debate on whether addr:name is relevant.

 From that perspective it looks like Australia is similar with the 
postal service and your local council being separate authorative sources 
but, unlike Sweden, they use overlapping nomenclature. The following is 
not a primary source so I would be more than curious to know if anyone 
has a more formal answer:

https://www.houzz.com.au/magazine/how-to-name-your-house-stsetivw-vs~50717452

*"Make it legal*
You can call your home any name you want, but if you want to register it 
as its official address, contact your local council and postal service. 
They will ascertain if the name is already taken in the area or if there 
are restrictions on removing an existing name. They’ll even disallow 
rude names! You’ll still require a street or road number attached to 
your address, though."

Mike

On 2022-02-04 19:48, Dian Ågesson wrote:
>
> Genuine question:
>
> If I go to Officeworks and get a sign printed with the name "Bob" and 
> put it on my letterbox, does that become the name of my house?
>
>
> On 2022-02-04 06:31, Warin wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4/2/22 17:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> I've always listed the name of units & so on just as name=*.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> No longer used as the address, used 2 centuries ago.
>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 16:14, Mat Attlee <mattattlee at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:mattattlee at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a building that
>>>     had a street number but also a house name, as just above the
>>>     entrance and door number it said Rivenhall. Now the question is
>>>     should this be tagged as the name or addr:housename? I know the
>>>     latter is common in the UK though I couldn't find anything about
>>>     best practice in Australia.
>>>
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