[talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

[Brendan Barnes]

Yep opening_hours was approved for ways, and an example given was for
summer-only roads
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#Voting_addon_.22way.22

Whilst opening_hours is popular on amenities, the tag really doesn't seem
to get much usage on highway tags. Perhaps wrapping it in an
access:conditional works better for highways? As a benefit, conditional
tags can provide a lot more states, eg:

vehicle:conditional=discouraged @ (Dec-Apr "Road is gnerally impassable
during the wet season")

On doing a little more research, opening_hours.js script used by popular
generators and validators throw an error on the opening_hours formatting
being months only eg May-Nov and it expects May-Nov 00:00-24:00 or a
comment
https://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/?EXP=May-Nov%2000%3A00-24%3A00

Mapping complex tagging for routing engines to parse will always be a
chicken-and-egg situation. But I suppose build it and they will come (or
route around it in this case).


On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 16:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Thanks, fellas! It's not an utterly stupid idea then!
>
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 14:46, Brendan Barnes <brenbarnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> If a road has definitive closure dates we might be able to utilise
>> opening_hours. I tried to start something similar on Victorian Alps
>> seasonal road closures, for example
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/105842220. However these closures are
>> usually described something like "closed to vehicles from Queens Birthday
>> weekend to Cup Weekend" and are proving difficult to describe in OSM tag
>> format without having to upload new dates each year.
>>
>
> I've been mapping Surf Life Saving clubs with:
>
> opening_hours=Sep-Apr Sa-Su 08:00-17:00, which seems to work?
>
> Would just opening_hours=May-Nov work?
>
> I know a lot of the roads in Cape York Peninsula are only open during the
> "dry" season, but not sue how they're tagged, if they are at all?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
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