[talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

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I guess the source of the tagging information might be from the operators
website or such instead of someone having seen a sign on the ground.

 

From: iansteer at iinet.net.au <iansteer at iinet.net.au> 
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Subject: Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

 

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:26:38 +1100

From: "Phil Wyatt" <phil at wyatt-family.com <mailto:phil at wyatt-family.com> >

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Subject: Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

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>Hi Folks,

>Thanks for the great discussion on this issue. I have tried to summarise
the discussion and it seems like there is some consensus around the
following tagging

>hiking_scale:awtgs= as the general tag for the grade of the WHOLE track as
that is what is detailed in the AWTGS guidelines 

>and

>source:hiking_scale:awtgs= for the source of the data with values such as

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=user  - Where a user has defined the
grading

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=operator  - Where the grading has
been applied by the operator of the track (and the operator should also be
applied to the track)

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=as_signed  - Where the data has come
from a sign located at the start of the track

>There has also been some discussion on sections of track being graded as
well. I think this needs further work as it doesn?t seem to match the
guidelines and may also depend on how operators have defined the tracks >ie
Is the Larapinta ?Track? all graded the same or are ?sections? rated
differently? I know in the case of Tasmania the Overland Track that PWS has
a single grading for the whole track but some other websites have >graded
each ?section/days travel?.

>There also needs to some further clarification if this goes on the ways or
relations in regards to longer defined tracks with relations.

>If we are close then I reckon an updated wiki with these values on both

>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia/Walking_Tracks and

>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Bush_Walk
ing_and_Cycling_Tracks

>Cheers - Phil

 

That sounds great to me Phil (nearly ready for me to reapply my deleted
tags).  

However, I'm not sure I understand the difference between your suggested
sources "operator" and "as_signed".  I suggested "as-signed", but surely the
operator is the body that installs the signs - so wouldn't they normally
mean the same thing ?

regards

Ian

 

 

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