[talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

[Sam Wilson]

I went for a cycle along SW8 this afternoon, and I now think that at 
least that route (and the others if they're similar) should be kept in 
OSM. It's not signposted wonderfully, and there are a few places where 
following the signs wasn't possible, but there were definitely quite a 
lot of signs — including some new ones that have been put up since 
recent roadworks in various places.

The state Department of Transport still publish the bike maps 
<https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/active-transport/at_CYC_map_PerthFremantle-Stirling.pdf> 
(although I can't find an index to them on their site; they're 
discoverable with a search 
<https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/public/SearchTransport.asp?&q=bike%20map&start=0> 
though).

Here are some examples of the signs (I took a few more photos 
<https://samwilson.id.au/T2006> too):

Image of the file attached to this post.

Image of the file attached to this post.


On 11/2/22 16:16, Sam Wilson wrote:
> I'm also a Perth cyclist, and I think I pretty much agree with what 
> others have said. These routes should stay on the map if they're 
> signposted on the ground, but other than that I think they're often 
> not particularly great routes. I must admit that the cyclemap render 
> now (since the removal of these routes) actually looks a lot more like 
> my intuitive idea of what cycling looks like in Perth — i.e. there are 
> some good purpose-made paths along the freeways, and other than that 
> there's not much. With the official routes, it always looked like 
> there was this amazing cross-cutting network of cycleways, and 
> actually that's not really the case.
>
> —Sam
>
>
> On 11/2/22 13:44, iansteer at iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 01:11:54 +1000
>>> From: <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>
>>> To: <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging
>>>     Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta
>>> Message-ID: <045901d81e90$8c77e060$a567a120$@thorsten.engler.id.au>
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>>>
>>> Well, he has answered a changeset comment:
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116656873
>>>
>>> I'll leave it to the WA OSM community if that's a valid reason to 
>>> simply
>> delete
>>> a whole bunch of routes for which there definitely are signs on the
>> ground,
>>> and what to do about it.
>>>
>> I am from Perth, and am a cyclist.  I agree with aaronsta that these 
>> routes
>> are pretty useless.  I have often looked at the signage and wondered 
>> about
>> OSM & the usefulness of the routes.  I might not have gone to the 
>> extent of
>> deleting them, but it is probably the right thing to do (they are
>> pretty-much obsolete and I doubt if anyone uses them)
>>
>> Ian
>>
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