[talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

[forster at ozonline.com.au]

Thanks Phil, speaking for myself, I am very happy for you to take the  
lead. The reason I suggest writing aaronsta a letter is that the DWG  
would prefer us to exhaust all avenues of engagement before calling  
them in.

I don't think we (the OSM community) have been particularly good at  
telling him how he has been going.

We tell him that he is a "Great Mapper (Regularly Active)"
And that he is #14 in Australia.      Hdyc

Any criticism he ignores as a few disgruntled people, he gets no  
feedback from the community as a whole.

I have contacted Pascal Neis about hdyc. I think he rejigged hdyc a  
few months ago to an emphasis on quality not quantity,  maybe it could  
go further.

Tony

> I am happy to send an email to DWG with an overview of concerns.   
> Maybe other folks can gather a listing of any desired changesets for  
>  reversion and if all or just some wiki edits should be reverted.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2022 2:19 PM
> To: 'OSM-Au' <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging   
> Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta
>
> There is also that he seems to be deleting all source tags on any   
> loaded objects with many of his changesets.
>
> I wrote a changeset comment on one of the changesets that do that,   
> to which he has simply not replied. (My changeset comments about   
> that and the PBN have been made at the same time, he replied to the   
> later, not the former).
>
> This is exactly the behaviour that earned him a block and a mass   
> revert of scores of changesets 5 years ago. (See my link to the   
> talk-au archive with posts about that earlier in this discussion).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forster at ozonline.com.au <forster at ozonline.com.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2022 10:37
> To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM-Au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging   
> Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta
>
> Graeme
>
> Yes, he has made big changes to the documentation and the map. The   
> same 2 issues apply to both, some of the changes are contrary to   
> community expectations and changes of such scale should be made   
> after consultation. I believe he is acting in good faith but his   
> balance between contribution and consultation is badly out.
>
> The issue for us is to explain to him what the expectations are for   
> consultation without alienating him.
>
> Tony
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 09:55, Sam Wilson <sam at samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The other thing that occurs to me about this discussion is that
>>> aaronsta is not actually subscribed to this list — does anyone
>>> know? I might leave a comment on the changeset instead...
>>>
>>
>> Not having a go at you blokes interested in the bike routes :-), but
>> the whole conversation started because Aaronsta made massive changes
>> to how bikeways etc are written up on the Guidelines!
>>
>> I don't know about anywhere else, but he has changed them to say that
>> cycling on footpaths is illegal in Qld, which is totally wrong!
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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