[talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

Bob Cameron bob3bob3 at skymesh.com.au
Mon Feb 14 03:42:50 UTC 2022


Finally got around to doing these changes. 10 ways were affected

The signs at Willow Tree and just out of Merriwa only say that there is 
no access to the other town. I doesn't say where the actual closure is, 
so I relied on my pre closure drive Mapillary imagery.

I vaguely remember that dating a fixme for action is possible, but I 
didn't do that, just described what happened and what has to be done. Is 
there a way to cause some kind of auto prompt to happen?

Tnx

On 3/2/22 11:32, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote:
>
> On 3/2/22 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 22:18, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au 
>> <talk-au at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>     update a short section of road there with access=no.
>>
>>
>> =no or =private, because work crews can still drive in there to do 
>> repairs?
> Either would be fine as far as I'm concerned. Both achieve the primary 
> objective of stopping routing engines from using this road.
>>
>>     This achieves the main objective of stopping OSM from routing
>>     along the
>>     way. 
>>
>>
>> & would you also add noexit=yes to each end of the blocked section?
> noexit isn't a tag I've used. According to 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit "It must be ignored by 
> routing (GPS)." - which means its use shouldn't affect routing.
>
> Also, if you use access=private then noexit=yes is wrong because 
> "other modes can continue".
>
> If you are using a map checking tool which complains if it doesn't 
> have a noexit=yes tag then add it. Personally, I don't normally add 
> tags which have no practical effect on how I use the map, and only 
> affect a tool which: I haven't used, don't have experience with, and 
> therefore can't verify if I'm using the tag correctly.
>
>> & in regard to "Local Knowledge" ^^
>>
>> So you're standing in the pub having a cold beer & the two blokes 
>> beside you are talking.
>>
>> "Jeez, Coulsons Creek Road is a mess. Had to go to Merriwa yesterday 
>> but it's closed from a landslide, so I had to go all the way to Woop 
>> Woop & back".
>>
>> "Yep, my sons part of the Main Roads crew looking at the repairs. 
>> "Very Bad Spot" has gone completely & he reckons it's going to be out 
>> for at least 2 years"
>>
>> Does that count as Local Knowledge?
>
> There will always be sources which require a subjective decision on 
> what is sufficiently verifiable to justify mapping it. Are the two 
> blokes beside you people who you know previously to be reliable 
> sources? Or are they the local drunks who are known to tell tall tales?
>
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