[talk-au] Shared Zones (Or, Living Streets in car parks?)

[Stéphane Guillou]

I agree with Andrew's tagging guidelines update. I was never happy with 
tagging a way as a "living street" when it was obviously a driveway with 
a sign slapped onto it to basically say "drivers, please be careful, 
pedestrians might cross at any spot".
On rendered data, it often makes it look like the area is a lot more 
active travel-friendly and "enjoyable to hang out on" than it actually 
is on the ground...

Cheers

On 17/2/22 11:23, Dian Ågesson wrote:
>
> Hey Graeme,
>
> Spotting your change certainly reminded me of the shared zone signs 
> I’ve been seeing, but not because it is tagged incorrectly. It’s been 
> on my to do list since I nearly got run over eating a Bunnings sausage 
> over Xmas!
>
> I think that this is a good example of a true “living street”; it 
> would not have been a service road if not signed as a shared zone, and 
> is intended to be shared space to encourage pedestrian traffic.
>
> Similar examples I am familiar with include Fitzroy St, St Kilda at 
> Acland Street; Kananook Creek Boulevard South in Frankston between 
> Playne and Davey; and Hardware Lane, Melbourne, at the Bourke Street 
> Carpark.
>
> I have noticed that a lot of “true” living streets in Melbourne are 
> busy roads that have been handed back to pedestrian traffic, or are in 
> new, sterilised (soulless) places like Docklands.
>
> Dian
>
> On 2022-02-17 10:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>> This discussion started in response to something that I mapped.
>> I was clearing a note / Inspector issue nearby & wondered why this 
>> street appeared differently on the map:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/216566993
>> Had a look & it was tagged as a service-alley which just didn't seem 
>> right, but neither did =residential, so I changed it to =tertiary 
>> (=unclassified may have been better?).
>> Question was raised as to whether it should be, so I've now changed 
>> it to =living_street pending outcome of these discussions.
>> Here it is FYI:
>> https://goo.gl/maps/g3jpqjDQLgCktmfc7
>> https://goo.gl/maps/wNQyQo7RZRyg94pg8
>> So what do we think it should be?
>> Thanks
>> Graeme
>>
>>
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