[talk-au] train tour

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sun Feb 20 08:19:33 UTC 2022


On 20/2/22 11:29, stevea wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Someone is mapping a 'train tour' into OSM.
>> Should such things be mapped?
> Yes.  As someone who extensively maps rail infrastructure relations (route=railway) as well as both passenger routes (route=train, route=light_rail, route=tram, route=monorail...) which are "typical passenger trains" (like commuter lines, light rail, urban trams, airport-style monorails...) AND passenger routes on rail which are "heritage / tourist / museum" trains, it is clear to many in OSM that these deserved to be mapped:  they are quite extensively.
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> Additionally, sometimes the (subtle, see above!) tagging schemes (not to mention PTv1 and PTv2 differences) for these differing kinds of passenger rail services (passenger=international, passenger=national, passenger=regional, passenger=suburban, passenger=urban, passenger=local) need explaining.  Sometimes, such "tourist" routes deserve to be tagged "passenger=local" (or maybe urban, depending on length and speed), if they provide some modicum of passenger service (in addition to the touristic or "heritage / museum" kinds of services).  Other times, a passenger=* tag doesn't belong, as the trains are only for excursion or educational purposes.
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> For a rich example, please see https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/California/Railroads/Passenger , especially the last section:  "Tourism, museum, heritage and historic (possibly passenger=local) trains."


Wow. Thanks for that...

I would think passenger=tourist would fit...


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> Do recall that it is typical around the world for there to be TWO route relations associated with such a passenger route:


Some of ours, such as the India Pacific, are tourist only, other 
'commuter' services are different shorter routes.




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