[talk-au] Sidewalks as "Path" when bicycles allowed? was: OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

[osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au]

No it’s not. And I’m pretty sure it didn’t say that on the ATGs before he vandalised them.

 

From: Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz> 
Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 19:18
To: osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au
Cc: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Sidewalks as "Path" when bicycles allowed? was: OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

 

Hello,

I noticed in these changes that the Australian tagging guidelines have included this note about footpaths (sidewalks) in jurisdictions where cycling is allowed.

"


On all shared use paths which can be used by both pedestrians and cyclists.
*Cycling is permitted on footpaths in ACT, NT, QLD, SA, Tas., and WA, and highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> =path <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath>  should be used in general circumstances. Refer to highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> =path <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath>  for further guidance on which supporting tags to use.

Is this accepted practice? To be this doesn't seem like a good idea:  it seems like the same problem as explicitly tagging sidewalks as bicycle=no; if there is any change in legislation the tags won't make sense?

Dian

On 2022-02-13 21:11, osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au <mailto:osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>  wrote:

That's not what happened here. See these examples:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/941255156085948466
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/941255208787386428
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/941255284171624489
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/941255349749547018
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He simply indiscriminately removed all source tags from any loaded (into
JOSM) object, even though he didn't touch these in any way. No tag changes
(outside of deleting the source tags), no geometry changes.

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From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2022 18:57
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org> 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines
has been changed by Aaronsta


On 13/2/22 14:18, osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au <mailto:osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>  wrote: 

There is also that he seems to be deleting all source tags on any loaded

objects with many of his changesets. 


I wrote a changeset comment on one of the changesets that do that,



When I make a change I delete the source tag when I'm using a different
source.

The new source can be seen on the changeset. The past source/s can be seen
using the history.


If there are no changes then there should be no change to any of the 
existing tags - source or otherwise.


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