[talk-au] 2377 occurrences of fixme="unknown type of water crossing"

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Feb 23 11:58:15 UTC 2022


Take your pick. It would depend on where;

some places have long stretches of road that are 'flood prone', tagged 
on the road only?

some places have a short section - a ford. So this would need 2 sections 
of stream - one through the culvert (some around me have more than one 
pipe so micro mapping would have 3 culverts!) and another section of 
stream that intersects the road with ford tagging.


One I just walk past today has a culvert .. that part of the road is 
dry, but the road dips down after that and is flooded right now .. depth 
~ 0.6 metres length 30? metres. Did not pay much attention to the length.


On 23/2/22 20:12, Bob Cameron wrote:
>
> Would you mind elaborating?
>
> With the stream under a road (way) as tunnel and the default culvert;
>
> The road over the top has either a node or way ford
> Or
> is the road/way flood_prone yes
> Or
> is the stream culvert section additionally ford yes
>
> Tnx
>
> On 23/2/22 19:08, Warin wrote:
>>
>> Where these are in NSW the DCS Base Map shows where bridges are present.
>>
>> Some culverts become fords in flood situations, and floods are quite 
>> possible with intermittent waterways so tagging as both a culvert and 
>> food way may be best where this occurs.
>>
>> Personally I'd leave them alone, other than the obvious bridges they 
>> may not be resolved by imagery alone. I can see them being important 
>> on main roads .. so possibly those should be done.
>>
>> On 23/2/22 13:59, Ewen Hill wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>   A lot of you may have seen and fixed a node on a road adjacent to 
>>> a stream with a single key of fixme="unknown type of water 
>>> crossing", what I didn't realise until I ran an overpass  query 
>>> <https://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=%2F*%0AThis%20is%20an%20example%20Overpass%20query.%0ATry%20it%20out%20by%20pressing%20the%20Run%20button%20above!%0AYou%20can%20find%20more%20examples%20with%20the%20Load%20tool.%0A*%2F%0Anode%0A%20%20%5Bfixme%3D%22unknown%20type%20of%20water%20crossing%22%5D%0A%20%20(%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D)%3B%0Aout%3B&C=-36.84446;127.79297;4> was 
>>> that there were 2377 of these fixme remaining in Australia and they 
>>> were all added by a single organisation.
>>>
>>>    A lot of these are clearly fords on dry/intermittent creeks and I 
>>> can't see the reason for not mapping these as fords instead of 
>>> adding the fixme note to limit the amount of editing now required to 
>>> fix these imported fixme notes, most from 2018 and 2019.
>>>
>>> Row Labels 	Count of @version
>>> 1 	1649
>>> 2 	604
>>> 3 	104
>>> 4 	12
>>> 5 	5
>>> 6 	1
>>> 7 	1
>>> 13 	1
>>>
>>>
>>> As the node is adjacent to the stream, I can't see how to easily 
>>> edit these where it is clear it is a bridge or predominantly a ford 
>>> in an easy process. e,g, https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6839769585
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Ewen
>>>
>>>
>>
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