[talk-au] Head or point on non-coastal land

[Warin]

On 28/7/22 08:11, Tom Brennan wrote:
> On 26/07/2022 5:27 pm, Warin wrote:
>> I have done a few of these along the Gross Valley. In many cases 
>> there is a peak and I have taken the view that the 'head' is the top 
>> of the peak.
>  I did have a look at those.
>
> In general I would disagree with the 'head' being the top of the peak, 
> based on Geographic Names Board info.
>
> Most of the heads are designated as "BLUFF", which suggests that the 
> named point is where the cliff edge or steepening starts, rather than 
> the peak. The exception was Edgeworth David Head, which is designated 
> as "MOUNTAIN"
>
> But marking them as peaks does obviously help with the rendering!
>
>> natural=point only has some ~400 uses world wide, no wiki page so .. 
>> low uses = no rendering. Choosing one of the additional tags will get 
>> rendering .. but it should be appropriate to the feature not just 
>> 'tagging for the render'
>
> So from a long term perspective, is it better to just keep marking 
> them as "natural=point", and once there is a critical mass, pushing 
> for rendering? I'm not really clear on whether tags are supposed to be 
> defined first, or if it's just based on use.


Based on a lot of things. Creating a wiki page for them is easy .. copy 
the capes page for instance and modify it for heads. My last one was for 
the Melbourne sport of 'trugo' ... only 11 instances but I was intrigued 
as to what it was.

The people that make the decisions are probably as biased as I am so 
unless they have personal knowledge of 'the feature' it is less likely 
to get rendered on the standard map.

No reason why heads cannot be dual tagged ... as an example 
landcover=grass can be used when ever landuse=grass occurs. If the 
'head' and the 'peak' don't coincide then there is no reason for both 
not to be mapped.

>
> I'm not particularly fussed about whether or not they are rendered in 
> the map. Rather, I'd like to see them in the data, in the most 
> appropriate way.
>
> Interestingly, it seems to be a showdown between NSW and Somalia as to 
> who has the most "points" :)
>
>

Makes me wonder what the rest of the world is using .. or don't they 
have heads? :)