[talk-au] definition of PSV (Public Service Vehicles) in Australia

[Dian Ågesson]

Hi all,

Unfortunately bus lane restrictions are not the same in each state and 
territory. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Transportation.

As there isn't a consistent delineation about what counts as a public 
service vehicle in each state and territory, it'd probably be better to 
err on the side of specific access tagging rather than relying on a 
state/territory default. For David's case, I think a tag of taxi=yes 
would be prudent.

Dian

On 2022-06-27 01:24, Ben Kelley wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I'm not sure if this helps, but a "bus lane" allows buses, taxis, 
> bicycles and hire cars. A "bus only lane" allows only buses (not taxis 
> and hire cars). (Neither allow rental cars.)
> 
> The psv wiki page suggests tagging individual types if necessary, but 
> implies that a taxi is a PSV.
> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv
> 
> I think you should probably put taxi=no for a "bus only lane" but not 
> for a "bus lane".
> 
> IANAL but I'd guess that ride share services are not taxis in this 
> context.
> 
> - Ben.
> 
> On 27/6/2022 11:10 am, stevea wrote: On Jun 26, 2022, at 5:57 PM, David 
> Vidovic via Talk-au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> In regards to PSV (Public Service Vehicles), I understand this 
> encompasses buses/coaches.
> 
> For a "bus only" way such as a bus bay, I see common tagging 
> [access=no] + [psv=yes] used.
> 
> Does anyone know if a Taxi is considered a "public service vehicle" and 
> therefore able use the busy bay way? Or does [access=no] inherently 
> prevent this and it would need a separate [taxi=yes] tag?
> It might be controversial to say so, but "taxis" meant (until maybe a 
> decade ago, with the uprising of the Uber's of the world, which are, in 
> many places, "not _de jure_ taxis" but are rather "_de facto_ taxis") a 
> legally-regulated car-for-hire (not "rental, YOU drive," rather "hail 
> one" (or solicit a ride for a fare at a taxi stand)).

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