[talk-au] "Illegal", & "asked to be closed" tracks?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Message sent to Blue Mountains Council asking for them to please clarify
what the legal use of these tracks is?

I'll update when I hear something back from them.

Thanks

Graeme


On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 18:15, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Illegally constructed ... who says?
>
>
> Never mind.
>
>
> The land owner/controller would be the one to contact.
>
>
> Ask about access in general terms - everyone, private, permissive..
>
>
> The method of transportation over the track is a separate issue ...
>
> There maybe access considerations for them too .. but again not about
> the physical properties .. but the permissions.
>
>
> On 10/3/22 18:40, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
> > Hi Graeme
> >
> > "Illegally constructed trail bike tracks", so
> >  possibly just tagging it as motor_vehicles=private, foot & bikes=yes,
> > would
> >  solve it?
> >
> > No, I don't think so.
> > Its a trail bike track so its probably too narrow for cars,
> > motor_vehicles=private seems irrelevant
> > foot & bikes=yes, It sounds like the landowner didn't want the track
> > constructed and most likely doesn't want any traffic at all. access=no
> > is probably the most accurate.
> >
> > Strava, glowing dull red cuts out the lifecycle prefixes.
> >
> > I would probably tag it access=no and close it with a comment that
> > removing it from the map is not a simple process and that the creator,
> > Cormacticii probably should ask on talk-au
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 17:34, <forster at ozonline.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2788602#map=15/-33.7227/150.6317
> >>> Contact the land manager, if the land manager can make a serious job
> >>> of closing the track to traffic then it might be OK to use a lifecycle
> >>> prefix, there are a few to choose from.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks - now who to ask?
> >>
> >> The Note's OP says that it's "Deerubbin LALC land", which I'm
> >> thinking is
> >> Local Aboriginal Land Council?, while we show that it comes under Blue
> >> Mountains City Council. Which of the two would have the say? Or is it
> >> State
> >> Govt?
> >>
> >> Also thought to have a look on Strava, which shows this looped track as
> >> glowing dull red, so a reasonable number of people are certainly
> >> using it!
> >>
> >> Complaint was that it was "Illegally constructed trail bike tracks", so
> >> possibly just tagging it as motor_vehicles=private, foot & bikes=yes,
> >> would
> >> solve it?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Graeme
> >>
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