[talk-au] Mapping shared driveways

[Dian Ågesson]

Interesting discussion; it does seem like the consensus is landing on 
the side of service=pipestem.

There are 668 instances of driveway=pipestem in Australia: 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gU6, but there is 0 instances of 
service=pipestem: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gUd. However, it seems as 
though I have had a disproportionate influence (509 of driveway=pipestem 
were last edited by me https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gUf)

I don't have a strong preference either way, so I'm happy to move over 
to the service=pipestem structure (possibly through bulk edit?)

Dian

On 2022-03-16 08:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:

> In the global community it's still disputed, see 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:service%3Ddriveway#Pipestems 
> and my proposal to have this as an editor preset 
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/239 where the 
> tagging question is still not resolved.
> 
> I've actually come around to the idea that service=pipstem is better, 
> rational being that service=driveway is very clearly defined on the 
> wiki as a non-shared driveway leading to a single residence. I think 
> it's best we leave that intact and have a sibling tag service=pipestem 
> for shared driveways. Otherwise you'll need to redefine 
> service=driveway to be any type of shared or non-shared driveway and 
> add a new tag driveway=single to most existing highway=service.
> 
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 08:10, Tom Brennan <website at ozultimate.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I think I started the last discussion on this, so I'll wade in!
>> Driveways are a bit of a nightmare - there are lots that don't fit
>> neatly into one bucket or another.
>> 
>> We did agree that service=driveway, driveway=pipestem was better than
>> service=pipestem.
>> 
>> It's probably 6 of one, half a dozen of the other as to whether the 
>> ones
>> below are all shared driveways. Some could equally be classified as
>> private residential roads.
>> 
>> But they could all do with a clean up, one way or the other!
>> 
>> cheers
>> Tom
>> ----
>> Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
>> Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com
>> 
>> On 15/03/2022 9:22 pm, Dian Ågesson wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Seb!
>>> 
>>> The last time this came up on the mailing list
>>> (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2021-September/015014.html)
>>> most people seemed to approve of the following mapping:
>>> 
>>> highway=service
>>> 
>>> service=driveway
>>> 
>>> driveway=pipestem
>>> 
>>> Dian
>>> 
>>> On 2022-03-15 20:16, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Had a query regarding the mapping of driveways / shared  driveways 
>>>> as
>>>> there seems to be quite a number of different approaches in the 
>>>> data.
>>>> Below are three examples of similar ways that have different tags 
>>>> used
>>>> in each instance.
>>>> 
>>>> Highway=service
>>>> Service= driveway
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/818426144
>>>> 
>>>> Highway=Residential
>>>> Service= driveway
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/184844142#map=18/-38.00126/145.27585
>>>> 
>>>> Highway=residential
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429541974
>>>> 
>>>> Reading the OSM wiki, none of these ways are correctly mapped as 
>>>> they
>>>> are all shared driveways that leads from a road. my understanding 
>>>> that
>>>> they need to be tagged as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> Highway=service
>>>> Service= Pipestem
>>>> 
>>>> Would be interested in knowing your thoughts.
>>>> 
>>>> regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sebastian
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