[talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

[forster at ozonline.com.au]

Hi all, I see Sebastian has posted to the list now
background to this: Way History: 679145843
about a year ago Sebastian had bicycle=no, highway=track
as part of the DWG sanctioned revert I deleted the bicycle=no

Hi Sebastian

a bit more,
If I wanted to add tags I would go on site have a look and do  
Mapillary photos. Unless there were already good photos. What I see  
now is a construction site at the south end with gates I think. Its a  
temporary construction track maybe and closed off now? No good photos  
at the north end.

Going out on site and taking photos is time consuming but I think the  
map is maturing, its moved to needing quality rather than quantity.

Also I want to back off slightly on my previous "tag it private if you  
know it is private, don't guess" You can guess a little bit but you  
still need to be fairly sure.

Tony


> Yep no problem. I hadn?t realised I had replied privately. Will   
> reply to the list.
>
> regards,
> Sebastian
>
>> On 26 Mar 2022, at 9:39 pm, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi
>> A quick reply now, its late, and maybe more considered tomorrow
>>
>> its tagged highway=track
>> I can see no "access all=yes" so nothing is being asserted about the access
>> that suits me for now as I know nothing about the track
>>
>> I think I can see a gate or fence, not sure,
>> 38°11?52?S, 145°8?22?E
>> -38.1976644, 145.1393379
>>
>> and maybe the other end
>> 38°12?12?S, 145°8?3?E
>> -38.2032271, 145.1342893
>>
>>
>>> When I load a map file on my gps unit it will show this way as    
>>> accessible for me to ride based on the OSM tagging. Unless there   
>>> is  an explicitly tag bike=no, private or similar then it?s will   
>>> still  think that I can legally ride on it.
>>
>> I don't know if you can legally ride on it or not. I doubt that   
>> through traffic is treated differently to local, you are probably   
>> either allowed in or not. I doubt bikes are treated differently
>>
>> I have replied privately because you have asked privately, this   
>> stuff is OK for the list and you would get some more and probably    
>> better ideas.
>>
>> in summary
>> If there are gates then your gps problem is solved
>> no bike= tag is called for, bikes are probably the same as cars
>> tag it private if you know it is private, don't guess
>> If your GPS wants to send you that way its not necessarily a fault   
>> with the map
>>
>> Are you happy to put this on the list?
>>
>> Tony