[talk-au] HighRouleur edits

[Michael Collinson]

As the original mapper of the cycleway in changeset 11862794 and having 
viewed Tony's photos [1] to refresh my memory, I concur with Tony's 
proposal that the way should be split in two. The western part being a 
parkland cycleway and therefore satisfying routing. But the eastern 
part, the "cycleway" - perhaps better described as "cycle route" - 
follows the St. Andrews Court residential motor road not the narrow 
asphalt path that winds around trees, that should be an ordinary 
footway=sidewalk as editted by Sebastian. My general observation is that 
there should be a balance between rigorously only mapping what is 120% 
properly signed cycleway, (this is sadly not true in many parts of the 
world and particularly not true in suburban Melbourne), and having a map 
that can route cyclists along safe routes that are used on a practical 
basis (may or may not be clearly de jure) everyday.

I thank both Sebastian and Tony for the effort put in collaboratively 
improving the map. I'm currently on my annual 4 month Melbourne stint - 
living this time in Seaford this time and cycle commuting daily through 
to Cheltenham.  If either of you are in that area and want to meet up 
for a social coffee, I'd be delighted. Email me privately. Sadly, only 
two more weeks to go this time but will be back in Nov.

Mike

[1] 
https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tonyf1?lat=-37.962247513974&lng=145.01882162969002&z=18.085357379143982&pKey=158986949844367&focus=photo 
<https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tonyf1?lat=-37.962247513974&lng=145.01882162969002&z=18.085357379143982&pKey=158986949844367&focus=photo>

On 2022-03-27 19:33, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
> Hi Sebastian and list,
>
> 2) are cycle routes cycleways or footways, specifically Changeset: 
> 118627943
>
> I have provided a link to my photos and labeled the main ones at 
> Changeset: 118627943
>
> I believe that way 671174716 should be split in 2, the eastern part 
> appears to be the footpath, there is only one side with a footpath, 
> the bicycle route is intended for the road, St Andrews Ct, not the 
> footpath
>
> The west section through the parkland is a cycleway, photos 22 and 23 
> show a bicycle route with green circle below. Its unclear what used to 
> be in the circle before it faded.
>
> Photo 21 end of McKay shows no signage. I looked.
>
> 18 and 19 are a bit confusing, they show a route coming out of Tricks 
> Reserve
>
> 18 partly obscured shows a route east along McKay
> 51 shows this sign more clearly
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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