[talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

[Michael Collinson]

I suggest a good consensus basically following the rest of the world 
would be:

1) If a path is clearly marked for use by bicycles then use 
bicycle=designated.  I.e.  "there ARE signs present to indicate bikes 
are expressily permitted".

2) If a path has no signage barring cycling and no clear law or bylaw 
preventing it, such as for unsigned sidewalks in most (all?) Australian 
states and it is practical to use by bicycle, then use bicycle=yes. In 
the real world we cannot expect every legal usage of everything to be 
explicitly signed, it does not make sense.

BTW, the way mentioned is a grass strip used mainly for pedestrian 
access. It was tagged by me and I use it regularly by bicycle when 
working in that area. There is no earthly reason for removing. I think 
the user is  basically mixing "yes" and "designated". I should also add 
that other types of edits by him are completely in order and I continue 
to welcome him in our OSM community.

Mike


On 2022-10-07 11:22, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
> Hi
> I have been monitoring the edits by a user who still "changes shared 
> paths to footpaths as no signs present to indicated bikes are 
> permitted" in Victoria Australia.
>
> Most of these changes are small ways where there are unlikely to be 
> serious consequences, its not worth the petrol (or electricity in this 
> case for my Nissan Leaf) to go out and inspect the way and I have said 
> nothing.
>
> I have commented on way 1008258040 in Changeset: 126886850 where 
> bicycle=yes by the previous editor has been removed because there were 
> "no signs present to indicated bikes are permitted"
>
> There is good street level imagery. It is not a footpath in the 
> sidewalk sense. It looks OK for bicycles to me. Sorry to bother but I 
> request a clear community consensus again on whether "no signs present 
> to indicated bikes are permitted" is of itself sufficient evidence 
> that bicycles are disallowed.
>
> Sorry to bother you all
> Tony
>
>
>
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