[talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

[Ewen Hill]

Hi Ian,
   Firstly, thank you to you and the Munda Biddi (MB) elves for providing
an amazing 1000km cycling route, mainly off-road, sometimes on ball
bearings, other times on sand and the rest mainly on fire trails and single
track. It is an amazing asset and something that I will cherish completing.

   I have been thinking of this with the new Collie township spur and the
other oddities and especially the huts that scatter the route which apart
from one amazing hut that is smack bang in the middle of the trail, are
normally just off the trail on short spurs. Please note that this route is
not set in stone and sections are replaced on a regular basis.

  Where it started with two relationships of MB-Main and MB-Alternative, I
believe a master MB would be preferable containing all the huts, spurs,
winter/summer variations and the main route. Where there is a spur like
Collie (~16km?), an additional MB-Collie-Spur might be worthwhile.

Having a single master would allow users to easily extract the entire route
and huts in one go and prepare them for their garmin and whatever GIS
software they use.It would also give councils, emergency services, tourism
operators etc. easy access to all of the relevant data.  I don't see the
need to maintain any other spur relationships unless the spur is ~> 2km as
it's probably overkill and makes it more complex to maintain.

Next time you are over east, let's have a chat about a MB east coast
equivalent between Orbost and Canberra - and apols for my route checker
code failing back in 2019. ;)

Ewen

On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 13:15, Ian Steer <iansteer at iinet.net.au> wrote:

> I am a volunteer with the Munda Biddi Trail Foundation, and do my best to
> keep the Munda Biddi Trail route relation (5810814) up-to-date.  The trail
> is 1,000km from Perth to Albany.
>
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> There is a child route relation (Munda Biddi Alternate, 8900679) that
> contains “odds and sods” not on the main route (typically spur trails into
> overnight huts).
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> There are a few sections of the main trail that have alternate routes –
> some for north-bound/south-bound, and one for summer/winter routes.
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> I don’t know enough about the potential consumers of route relation data
> to answer the following question:
>
> - should the sections of track with alternate routes (eg north/south,
> summer/winter) be in the main route relation? – or should I randomly select
> (say) north-bound and summer routes so as to keep the main route strictly a
> simple, point-to-point route (and shift the south-bound and winter routes
> into the Munda Biddi Alternate relation) ?
>
>
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> My suspicion is that they should stay in the main route relation.
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> Regards
>
>
>
> Ian
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Warm Regards

Ewen Hill
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