[talk-au] Road corridors with no road - what access?

[Tom Brennan]

In NSW these are known as Crown Roads, or 'paper roads' (where they are 
not constructed). They are administered by the state government, and in 
theory, access is public. It can be hard to tell just by looking at 
parcel data whether something is a Crown Road or not.

There has been a program in recent years of selling these off to the 
adjacent landholder.

In some cases these provide access to parks and reserves, and letters 
have needed to be written to the Dept of Planning to protest the 
relevant sale.

I assume Victoria probably has a similar system to NSW

cheers
Tom
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On 11/12/2023 5:40 pm, Adam Horan wrote:
> When comparing satellite imagery and various maps on Vic Maps, you can find
> what seem to be road corridors that don't have roads in them. (I'm looking
> on https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/ and
> https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/ and when you show parcel data you
> can see these linear areas that extend off the end of roads, usually in
> rural areas. These linear areas do not show parcel information, unlike the
> surrounding blocks)
> 
> They tend to be visible in sat imagery too as scrubby or rougher land
> compared to the fields and paddocks around them.
> 
> I would love to be able to legally (and safely) use these as walking and
> running routes in my  surrounding countryside, and also allow others to do
> so. They're attractive as they're traffic free.
> 
> I'll link to some examples below, but I'll ask my questions here:
> 1. How can I validate if these are unbuilt roads, and how can I check what
> the access is?
> 1a. I guess as these aren't main roads that they belong to the local
> council?
> 2. If a path is already present then I can map that as a simple path, but
> how could I map and tag the land?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adam
> 
> Example 1 :  Lambert Road, Pearcedale
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-38.1829/145.2334
> If you look on VicMap you can see the corridor extends to the west to meet
> with Middle Road.
> https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-2TIhhoK5rNdNfc4m2WxVtMMraiG
> https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.182821%7E145.233097&lvl=17.8&style=h
> This one seems pretty clear to me as there's a nice clear wooded line, when
> I recently passed this on Middle Rd you could see an unfenced section.
> 
> Example 2 : NW extension of 'Favorite Hill Rd' to North Road
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.17566/145.23470
> https://vic.digitaltwin.terria.io/#share=s-5PIrhAi6EP5M1ivchIyH9lfyGxF
> https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=-38.174379%7E145.236276&lvl=17.3&style=h
> 
> This one is visible on sat imagery, however it does seem to be fenced off
> from the established road.
> 
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