[talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

[Warin]

On 21/2/23 14:42, Josh Marshall wrote:
> Australian road tagging guidelines at 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads arguably 
> override the general OSM guidelines, and they read:
>
> highway=track: "Service and access roads that aren't part of the 
> general road network. Generally not paved, often not public access for 
> vehicles."... in rural "Fire trails, forest drives, 4WD tracks, and 
> similar roads.
>
> highway=unclassified is: "Minor roads that are neither tertiary or 
> residential roads. Not generally through routes."
>
> Given that, I'd argue =track is the right option.


The Bridal Track is open to the public, part of the general road network 
and a through route. It would never have been reopened if it was not for 
public money. at lest not reopened to the public.

So from that you could say tertiary. I'd not go that far.

>
> A tangent, but I'm rather happy that iD _*finally_* fixed their 
> English description for =track (it included "unmaintained" for a long 
> time; many were quite annoyed at the original change to include 
> that)... and I can't find any discussion about why they finally gave 
> in and reverted it! Vested interest, since it along with =path are 
> likely my two most used, given I map a lot of bush with fire trails 
> and run/ride singletrack.
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 09:23, cleary <osm at 97k.com> wrote:
>
>
>     The name should not constrain the classification of the highway 
>     (e.g. Dowling Track, Ooodnadatta Track). And, as I've commented
>     previously in other threads, the DCS NSW Base Map can be quite
>     outdated.
>
>     However, a quick look at a YouTube video suggests that the Bridle
>     Track should still be tagged as 4WD only (it was signposted as
>     such and probably still is). Wikipedia reports that part of the
>     route is new, apparently a diversion around the landslide that
>     blocked the old track at Monaghans Bluff. I'd prefer not to change
>     the OSM tags etc until someone surveys the route.
>

The Bridal Track has been brought up to a very high standard ... so the 
pollies would have no trouble opening ! It will not stay that way - I 
have been told no water truck was used in the constructions ..

I'd agree with 4WD recommended, if coming from the south most camp sites 
can be accessed with little trouble in a reasonable vehicle. The problem 
is the hill going upto Hill End .. t6hat can get lost of erosion .. and 
it is narrow with blind corners.

I do know the Track fairly well from a number of trips. The diversion 
looks to be less of an obstruction compared to the more difficult bits, 
at leas until it is weathered..

>
>
>
>     On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, at 9:17 PM, Warin wrote:
>     > Hi
>     >
>     > This track is now continuous having been closed due to a rock
>     fall and
>     > road collapse at Monaghans Bluff.
>     >
>     >
>     > Given the importance of the road and that it is not really a
>     'track' in
>     > the OSM sense (Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses)
>     ... and
>     > that the DCS Base Map places it at least tertiary level I would
>     think
>     > that all of this 'track' be classified in OSM as 'unclassified'.
>     >
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>
>
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