[talk-au] Dual naming in NSW

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 07:24:23 UTC 2023


Naming for Ayres Rock/Uluru was discussed in talk-au on October 2019...

We need to put this on the Australian tagging guidelines once some 
consensus is determined.

Presently ---------------

alt_name:en=Ayers Rock
alt_name=Ayers Rock
name:en=Uluṟu
name=Uluṟu

official_name:en=Uluru / Ayers Rock
official_name=Uluru / Ayers Rock

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I don't think Uluru is 'english'. And I'd not use old_name for 'Ayres 
Rock' as I'd think 'Uluru' would be older.


Note: One of the past names was 'Uluru (Ayers Rock)'.


On 6/6/23 14:26, Ian Sergeant wrote:
> I think including a "slash" character in a name tag is really ugly.  
> That's not the way that the GNB record them.  Unless someone can find 
> some information on the ground that records it that way?


'Uluru / Ayers Rock'  used to be the signage there, I have no idea if 
'Ayres Rock' has been removed.

.

>
> I understand the desire to not diminish either name when they are dual 
> named, but I think it's wrong to think of alt_name as a "lesser" 
> name.  Alternative means just that, it's an equally valid, but 
> alternative name.  It's looks like exactly the type of scenario 
> envisioned by the tag.
>
> IMO it's a bad outcome to end up with multiple names in one tag 
> separated by a slash.
>

I am for


name:en=Ayres Rock

name:aus=Uluru  If the language code is known then use that .. possibly 
use both for redundancy ???


The name= tag should be what is 'on the ground' if there is a slash then 
there should be a slash.




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