[talk-au] Bulloo Developmental Rd and Adventure Way FSWQ

[stevea]

Fair warning, I am USA-based, but I believe I have more-global perspective as I post to talk-au.

In a LOT of contexts, "asking the locals" or even "deferring to the locals" is an advisable strategy.  It works in contexts such as aboriginal_lands and even with (certain, as in Canada) admin_level tagging disputes.  The important thing is to be in "a listening mode" when locals participate with our wider community.  For something like "Adventure Way," as it is recognized as a "tourist promotion" kind of thing, yes, treat it as such and it will "bubble to its appropriate levels / values" by its tagging.  Sometimes some back-and-forth happens between "locals" and "wider OSM community," but it always seems to work out when dialog happens.

More often than not, a "this is how we do it around here" tagging strategy can be found that works.  Communicate.  G'day!

Stevea
California, USA


> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:32 PM, cleary <osm at 97k.com> wrote:
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> I haven't been in the area recently but my understanding was that "Adventure Way" was a tourist gimmick/promotion, not an official road name. "Matilda Way" is another such tourist promotion and I think there are others including a "dinosaur" route. I have never seen these names used or written in any official documents - only in tourist brochures. I note that you have tagged the particular section of road as "alt_name=Adventure Way" which is probably the best strategy unless someone else can provide a more authoritative answer.  
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> In the past, where there has been confusing or conflicting information, I have asked the locals if possible. Local residents are usually happy to clarify information. I have also contacted shire council offices - sometimes helpful, sometimes not.
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> Happy travels!
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> On Mon, 16 Sep 2024, at 4:21 PM, Bob Cameron wrote:
>> I am always worried about playing with relations, so thought I had 
>> better ask. Since I am out here it is probably time to fix.
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>> And noting I cant use Qld govt data as a source.
>> 
>> Presently OSM has Bulloo Developmental (primary) from Cunnamulla to 
>> just north of Nockatunga where it becomes Cooper Developmental going 
>> (further) north and east to Eromanga, and west on Adventure Way to 
>> Innamincka.
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>> Adventure Way is actually the route from Cunnamulla to Innaminka that 
>> covers most (but not all) of Bulloo Developmental, then seems to be a 
>> unique name west from Nockatunga.
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>> It would seem to me that
>> - The existing Bulloo Developmental route relation name (attached to 
>> the primary road) that is part of, changed to Adventure Way
>> - A (new) route relation Adventure Way attached to the existing 
>> Adventure Way tertiary road.
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>> Or has the "Adventure Way" name taken over the Bulloo name? if so what 
>> of the section of Bulloo that isn't Adventure Way?
>> 
>> What prompted this for me was a business just outside of Eulo that had 
>> Adventure Way on their mailing address. I also note that 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highways_in_Queensland & 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_road_routes_in_Queensland 
>> contains neither road names.
>> 
>> Would appreciate some ideas/help pls.
>> 
>> Tnxs Bob
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