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      <p>Hi David, thanks for your explanation.</p>
      <p>I think it is good practice to use a separate import account,
        so good on you!</p>
      On 15/4/19 11:17 pm, David Sisourath wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Sebastian,</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the feedback. The trees seen in
          the adjacent Wyndham City Council have actually been manually
          mapped by another contributor.
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I will change the changeset comments to be
          ‘<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white">Hobsons
            Bay Tree Import - </span><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council</a>’.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have also decided to create a dedicated
          OSM account for the import. This will be called
          HobsonsBayCityCouncil_Import with the user description linking
          to the import page.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Let me know if anything on the import page
          is unclear or if anything needs changing. I will be
          undertaking another test import, this time in an area with
          existing trees.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">David</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
          Sebastian Spiess <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mapping@consebt.de"><mapping@consebt.de></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 15, 2019 10:31:36 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> David Sisourath; Andrew Harvey<br>
          <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Importing Hobsons Bay City
          Council tree data into OSM</font>
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        <p>Hi David,</p>
        <p>I'd like to say that the test import looks very impressive on
          the map. Thank you for your effort on this.</p>
        <p>Are there guidelines how to mark the import in the changeset?
          Not having read up on it but I would think the changeset
          should reference the wiki page for the import?<br>
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        <p>For those who are interested in the import, see the wiki
          here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council"
            moz-do-not-send="true">
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council</a></p>
        <p>Cheers, Seb<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/4/19 10:45 pm, David
          Sisourath wrote:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Andrew, I have looked at all of
              the tags in the raw data and have created a Python file to
              process this.</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I have considered the ‘Unknown’, ‘Not
              Applicable’ and also removed the trees where they are
              ‘stumps’ or ‘vacant’.</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The data is linked here:</p>
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href="https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-80051ffe-04d5-4602-b15b-60e0d0e3d153/"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I have actually proceeded with a test
              import on a small area in Seabrook. A reason why I think a
              source tag would be useful is the identification of
              imported trees in subsequent updates from Council being
              imported.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I note that this test import is easily
              reversible by me if plans do not eventuate.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The test import changeset is here:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/69182499#map=16/-37.8860/144.7627"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/69182499#map=16/-37.8860/144.7627</a><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Also, there is a non-existent boundary
              through Seabrook Primary School that renders on Mapnik. I
              noticed this during the test import and am unsure of the
              issue here.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">David<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
              Andrew Harvey
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><andrew.harvey4@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:56:38 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> David Sisourath<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Importing Hobsons Bay City
              Council tree data into OSM</font>
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            <div dir="ltr">Great working on sourcing those waivers!
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              <div>Do you either have a sample .osm file or could you
                post an example of what tags/values will be imported?
                Can you say anything further about how you will
                transform the data? ie. removing "Unknown" values etc.</div>
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              <div>Regarding the source tag, I think it must be on the
                changeset, but can optionally be on each object as well.
                It was once pointed out to me that the source on the
                object may lead to editors thinking they can't
                change/touch the object, and it can also be misleading
                when changes subsequently happen. Mind you, I still add
                source, source:geometry, source:name etc. tags where I
                feel it's appropriate manually, I just don't think it's
                essential to have them on each object.</div>
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              <div>Feel free to post a link to this thread <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012577.html"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012577.html</a> as
                a changeset tag or comment to help link the import back
                to this discussion.</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at
                15:35, David Sisourath <<a
                  href="mailto:david.sisourath@hotmail.com"
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">I intend to import tree data in
                      the Hobsons Bay LGA into OSM.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The data has been verified by
                      myself with aerial imagery and DELWP/VicMap
                      boundaries.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">I will be importing small
                      squares of data at a time, including the tree
                      circumference, species (if known) or genus (if
                      species unknown). Tree circumference in the data
                      are grouped by ranges of 150mm. I have taken the
                      maximum of these ranges to be the circumference in
                      my code.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">A source tag will be attached
                      to each tree node imported,
                      source=data.gov.au:Hobsons Bay City Council, and
                      also on the relevant changesets.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">A waiver has been signed by
                      Hobsons Bay and is available on both the
                      Australian Data Catalogue page and the
                      <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Hobsons_Bay_City_Council_data"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                        Contributors</a> page.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Any questions or feedback
                      regarding the import would be highly appreciated,
                      including whether the approach to the
                      circumference tag, and source tag is acceptable.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">David</p>
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