[OSM-talk-be] Cell Phones Antennas

[Lennard]

On 21-4-2011 22:35, Pol wrote:

> Ok I will do it. I'll contact them tomorrow and ask them precisely. I'll
> do my report on that mailing as soon as I have a reply or an answer.

Excellent! I hope they're more willing to cooporate than they were to 
you before.

>     In general, we cannot use any government data in Belgium without
>     explicit permission. Either to any user or to OSM specifically.
>
> Ok I wasn't aware of that.

It also depends on which part of the government it is. For example: If 
they publish a law that documents coordinates, we can use it without 
questions. Any law, decree is fair game, but IANAL.

> But again, if I had spotted myself those antennas, the problem is still
> the same ?

No. In that case, *you* gathered the data. You can add that to OSM 
without any issues.

It's the same reason we cannot enter street names from other maps, but 
we can enter street names we mapped ourselves.

>     Also noteworthy is that the map on ibpt.be <http://ibpt.be> says
>     "Door deze site te gebruiken zijn de gebruikers gebonden door de
>     gebruiksvoorwaarden van Google." / "En utilisant ce site, les
>     utilisateurs sont tenus par les conditions d'utilisation de Google."
> So does it changes something ?

It shows either of two things:

1) They just included that generic notice without thinking too much 
about it.
2) They had to include it to be able to show a Google map.

Either way, the wording applies to the 'site'. So, please ask them to 
clarify their position with respect to their data. If they're willing to 
open up their data, doing it as a separate download, not on the map, is 
best. It avoids all traces of Google involvement.

Also, if you gathered your list of antennas by going over every map 
popup and writing down the coordinates, you've created a derivative work 
from Google.


-- 
Lennard