[OSM-talk-be] Fietsnet using OSM

Mon Aug 22 09:29:34 UTC 2011

Hi,

In fact, you can do anything you want  with the data itself, as long as 
there is an attribution for OpenStreetmap in, and its CC-BY-SA license 
applies to the outcoming results.
(It works in a manner 'contagious' like the GPL for programs does. You 
may use and change every program, but the result (with your additions) 
is also GPL.)
So, the OSM data makes the resulting  map tiles, geodata, routes, GPX 
data, etc also Copyright by OSM and licensed with the CC-BY-SA licence
See http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright and  the legal FAQ on 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ and some interpretations at 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Common_licence_interpretations
In principle you can not combine licenses. Because they are all not 
compatible, even if they are also some kind of 'open', except for Public 
Domain, were you can do what you want.
For maps this is not a problem, because it can be build with several 
transparant layers, each with their copyright and license.
For other data eg GPX, you must be assured that the additional data can 
also be spread under the OSM CC-BY-SA license (OSM and your additional 
copyright).
I don't know if this fits in your business model.
Note that in a few months, next year(?), the license will change to 
ODbL, which has similar rules.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_Licence

I love your FietsNet and hope something similar could be constructed for 
walking node networks as eg Zuid-Dijleland.
http://hiking.lonvia.de/?zoom=14&lat=50.77838&lon=4.59525
(Already partially mapped in OSM)

Regards,
Gerard.

Koen Mannaerts [fietsnet.be] wrote:

> Hi Jo, Kurt,
>
> Thanks heaps for helping!
>
> The most pressing question is about the OSM license.  I'm still not 
> entirely sure what OSM considers a derivative or produced work.
> The idea is that our contributors will extend, complete or correct the 
> OSM map, as far as trajectory information is concerned: nodes, the rcn 
> relationships, highway, bicycle, foot keyvalues, ...
> Periodically, Fietsnet will import all this data, connect it to other 
> sources (external like meteo and event poi's, internal like statistics 
> and usage data), and generate graph and track tiles.  These binary 
> tiles will be used by the publicly available, yet proprietary, 
> routeplanner application.
>
> I'm not sure OSM's license allows for this scenario.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Koen
>
>
>  
>
> Jo wrote:
>
>> Hi Koen,
>>
>> That is great news! We always like to work together with other 
>> groups. Many of the cycle node networks (fietsknooppuntennetwerken) 
>> are already in OSM, but more eyes and hands will certainly improve 
>> the map. We have many more of the small roads 
>> (wandelpaden/fietspaden) than Googlemaps, so I believe it will be a 
>> lot better as a background layer for your route planner.
>>
>> If you want to organise a presentation for your members, I'd be happy 
>> to come and explain how to enter the data (preferably with JOSM, 
>> since it is a lot more convenient to enter route relations). I can 
>> also explain how to convert a selection of routes into a gpx file, 
>> which can then be used in a GPS device for navigation.
>>
>> I can also offer help with 'importing' the data from your GIS to OSM 
>> as a semi automated process.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2011/8/21 Koen Mannaerts [fietsnet.be <http://fietsnet.be>] 
>> <koen at fietsnet.be <mailto:koen at fietsnet.be>>
>>
>>     Hi, I'm Koen from Fietsnet.be. Since 2007 Fietsnet is a rather
>>     popular routeplanner for the cycle node network in Belgium and
>>     the South of the Netherlands. It's an independent and
>>     non-commercial project by cyclists.
>>
>>     Currently we maintain our spatial information in a private GIS,
>>     but we're considering to shift this toOpenStreetMap.  Using OSM
>>     may enable new opportunities for the Fietsnet routeplanner, such
>>     as covering a larger area, deviating from the established cycle
>>     node networks, creating turn-by-turn navigation instructions and
>>     using richer road attributes.  OSM may also benefit from this
>>     initiative, as Fietsnet has a large user base of active cyclists
>>     and we've set up a process to reliably translate user feedback in
>>     an adapted map. I.e. we may change our process to quickly adapt
>>     and sanitize OSM data based on our current data and user feedback.
>>
>>     We're new to OSM, and we have a lot of practical, technical and
>>     legal questions about this move, too many and too boring to
>>     include in this message.  If you have experience with OSM, and
>>     are willing to help us out in one of these area's, it would be
>>     fantastic if you'd send us a mail:meewerken at fietsnet.be
>>     <mailto:mail%3Ameewerken at fietsnet.be>
>>     <mailto:meewerken at fietsnet.be <mailto:meewerken at fietsnet.be>>.
>>
>>     Let's do this!
>>
>>     --
>>     Koen Mannaerts | fietsnet.be <http://fietsnet.be>
>>
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