[OSM-talk-be] track with cycleway ? (and relation sorting)

[Ben Laenen]

On Tuesday 28 August 2012 22:25:29 Jan Herrygers wrote:
> I noticed that a gravel road (Dutch: grindweg) was not mapped, but the
> cycleway next to it was. The cycleway is in concrete.
> 
> I decided to redesignate 	the cycleway as highway=track with a
> cycleway=track:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.31012&lon=5.16682&zoom=17
> 
> It does look a bit weird, when you know the cycleway is concrete. Is this a
> logical way to tag this?

Yes, but if you want you can add a tag that says that the cycleway is 
concrete:

cycleway:surface=concrete

It won't change the rendering, but you never know when a router will get smart 
enough to be able to read it :-)

> Also, there was something weird going on with an intersection and a piece
> of the road where both the cycleway and the gravel road were mapped. In
> fact, that was the reason I looked over there in the first place: my
> routing app did some weird stuff over there. I decided to delete that part
> of the cycleway, and to add the gravel road to the cycle node network.
> 
> But I did that in Potlatch, so probably the route isn't well-sorted
> anymore. Does anyone care to correct that? Or is it not *that* important?

It's not really important that the order is correct in the database, but it 
can help in checking the route, that is if your editor can do anything with it 
(like JOSM). But there are other tools to check relations, like 
http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation . Just put the id of the relation in 
there and it will tell you if the route is in one piece (do note that with 
bicycle routes, you'll have the extra complexity of tails at the beginning and 
at the end or different routes for both directions, the tools can't really 
handle those).

Ben