[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Mobiel Brussel / Bruxelles Mobilité: wervenlijst / listing chantiers - 25.06.2012 > 01.07.2012

[Ben Laenen]

Perhaps we could look a little bit into how TMC is handled for traffic 
messages which are used to let your satnav tell you where the problems are. It 
has some issues though:

- only for big roads

- we need the tables to map the messages to roads, which means either getting 
them from the institutions that made those tables (and of course we have 
several of those in Belgium), or worse: somehow reverse-engineer the messages 
which will likely be near impossible.


In Germany there has been a lot of work on this in OSM. See 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMC and 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMC/TMC_Import_Germany


It may give some idea about what is needed to have some sort of universal 
format to pinpoint road work locations, but just extending the TMC format to 
all Belgian roads looks such a huge task that I don't think it can be done 
that way...

Also, this looks more like a task that should be handled across countries, so 
pushing this up to the international mailing lists may be a better idea, even 
though it's most likely the discussion will die out over there and nothing 
will come out of it...

Greetings
Ben



On Friday 22 June 2012 10:14:25 Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> Hello the list
> 
> Thanks for your input of my last mail.
> 
> THere have been different proposal on 1/ how to proceed, 2/ why not to list
> the works in OSM is I have understood.
> 
> May be the info could be added to a tool like
> http://rennes.carte-ouverte.org/ thant needs to be set up, but that we
> could do for Belgium.
> 
> Wouldn't be a good opportunity to ask for funding to set up a Belgiam
> chimère (the name of the tool).
> 
> Here is the list of works that I receive recularly from the Region.
> Too bad, for the format. What would your suggestions be for an easy use by
> us (automatic treatment) as well as an easy sork by the authorities ?
> 
> It could be some sort of structured data like YAML (see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML
> a human readable xml like) of a spreadsheet export in csv (or not exported
> xls of ods) ... or only but I suppose this needs too much work from the
> administration an automatic export by a web based tool that the
> administration could use. We could set up such a tool ... with some
> help/money from the administration, couln't we ?
> 
> Thanks for your ideas / inputs,
> 
> Nicolas