[OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

Sander Deryckere sanderd17 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 21 13:47:53 UTC 2012


Always take some time, you knew that uploading 1000 POI wasn't going to be
appreciated.

Uploading bugs to OpenStreetBugs is very easy. A few lines of bash or perl
code would do
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API_0.6#addPOIexec

But the problem isn't in uploading to OSB or OSM, it's checking if there
isn't already a speed limit present. The OSM database shouldn't be filled
with duplicate data if the data is already okay.  For OSB, this might be
less of a problem, but it's still not wanted.

Does anyone see a way on how to achieve this?

Regards,
Sander


2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>

>  On 2012-11-20 10:40, A.Pirard.Papou wrote :
>
> Hi,
>
> A GPS addicts group has encoded a file of over 1000 30 km/h speed limits.
> Their leader has just discovered OSM, ITO Map, etc...
> He's promoting security much and would like his data into OSM.
> I wrote on talk-be that this was doing it the other way round.
> A speed limit has two ends and his POIs are nodes.
> They should have been encoded into OSM first and then extracted.
> If only the world knew that OSM exists :-(
>
> I have converted their file to a .osm file.
> I can transfer the nodes to another layer and apply a JOSM preset.
> That's quite fast but 1000 is much!
> But I can split the .osm file to share the work.
>
> Well, do you think it would be useful to add those POIs and how?
>
>    - as a side node with
>       - maxspeed=30
>       - fixme=determine start/end and transfer these tags to the way
>       - source=http://...
>    - as a real limit on a sort distance, wrong but with a fixme?
>    most often it's about the same distance astride a school access
>    this could be visible on maps, but make believe the mapping is done
>     - as a just a note on the way:
>       - fixme=please tag the 30 km/h speed limit here
>       much time spent for little result
>        - another idea?
>
> A side node risks to be unnoticed and even left behind after really
> mapping the limit.
> Mapping the wrong distance means risking not to notice fixme and later
> split+join.
>
> Well, what's your advice?
>
> I think I was clear enough presenting the options I knew to help this guy.
> No replies.
> Now that I have prepared the quickest option 1, I receive all sorts of
> contradicting replies.
> Why not before I did the job?
> So, my conclusion is to suggest you to do it exactly as you want.
> You know where the data is.
> I will certainly not manually enter 1000 entries in OpenStreetBugs just in
> hope.
> But someone may know how to use OSB API. Or that they have none.
> And in that case, send OSB the file zone30_BE.asc. Or split and share the
> job...
>
> Is the error having no speed limit or having a dummy node showing there
> should be a limit?
> I had found that way to automatically signal the error to OSMI and to
> OSMOSE and to ...?
> But you don't want that.
>
> I was doing all that because I once picked up a dead 10 yo that s.o.
> knocked down, no speed limit.
>
> Goodbye,
>
>   André.
>
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