[OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )
A.Pirard.Papou
A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 23:01:19 UTC 2012
On 2012-11-22 12:46, Jo wrote :
> I hope this reply only goes to talk-be.
>
> I uploaded all the POIs to Openstreetbugs:
>
> http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=8&lat=50.44158&lon=5.91272&layers=B0T
>
> The most convenient way to integrate them into OSM, is to install the
> OpenStreetBugs plugin in JOSM. It is also practical to install the
> maxspeed MapCSS style.
Clicking on the _Josm_ link of the OSB tooltip works fine too.
Unresolved Error
*Description:* Zone30 DOLEMBREUX Rue D'esneux gpspassion.co, 2012-11-22
12:26:05 CET]
Thank you, Jo. I had already fixed this yesterday and I just cleared the
error with due comment.
Fixed Error
*Description:* Zone30 DOLEMBREUX Rue D'esneux gpspassion.co, 2012-11-22
12:26:05 CET]
*Comment:* Thanks, Jo. [Papou]
1+ ;-)
I wish this project a sincere good luck, despite, as I explained, that
OSB is dormant.
(see how your swarm is isolated: the few blue spots in it are my late
corrections (eg a brave NL camper indicating two camps 2 years ago and
my correction was to notice they had been added since)
Don't forget to advertise OpenStreetBug to revive it.
If you had discussed the options before doing it, I would have advised
to write "missing zone 30".
I wanted to have my warnings unobtrusive: using OSMI/OSMOSE allows to
selecting error kinds.
> I hope this helps. Keep in mind that I'm willing to give a
> presentation to the people from GPSpassion.com or other interested
> people explaining the most convenient way to integrate this data into
> OSM and also how to extract it once again with Overpass API.
Despite the lack of communication I was accused of, I have already
replied to this before you wrote it.
The best way to manage this data is to recommend to put it in OSM in the
first place.
What you can help with is helping the GPSpassion guys to extract their
POIs from OSM.
By lack of communication again, I have restored Jean's address as cc:
Cordialement,
André.
PS: Your code isn't Python. It's regex ;-) Just like my perl :-)
>
> This is the Python code I used:
>
> import re
> from httplib2 import Http
> from urllib.parse import urlencode
>
> z30RE = re.compile(r'''(?x)
> (?P<lon>\d+.\d+),\s*
> (?P<lat>\d+.\d+),\s*"
> \[(?P<z30>.+?)\]\s*
> (?P<city>.+?)\s*
> \(\s*(?P<street>.*)\)
> ''')
>
> with open("zone30_BE.asc") as z30:
> #
> for line in z30.readlines():
> print(line)
> m = z30RE.search(line)
> print(m.group('lon'),m.group('lat'),m.group('z30'),m.group('city'),m.group('street'))
>
>
> '''http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/api/0.1/addPOIexec?lat=<Latitude>&lon=<Longitude>&text=<Bug
> description with author and date>'''
>
> h = Http()
> data = {"lat": m.group('lat'), "lon": m.group('lon'),
> "text": 'Zone30 ' + m.group('city') + ' ' + m.group('street') + '
> gpspassion.com <http://gpspassion.com>'}
> resp, content =
> h.request("http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/api/0.1/addPOIexec",
> "POST", urlencode(data))
> #break
>
> I hope this helps. Keep in mind that I'm willing to give a
> presentation to the people from GPSpassion.com or other interested
> people explaining the most convenient way to integrate this data into
> OSM and also how to extract it once again with Overpass API.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
> 2012/11/22 A.Pirard.Papou <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
> <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>
>
> On 2012-11-21 22:45, Jo wrote :
>> Adding 1000 nodes to the OSM DB, which are meant to be deleted
>> once again seems like some sort of pollution.
> I said: non obtrusive. That is, believed to be harmless. That is,
> not seen on the map, not retrieved by any application, just
> appearing on both OSMI and OSMOSE.
> There are many more than 1000 things in OSM whose destination is
> destruction. Resembling this Zone 30, all the FIXMEs here and
> there, like quite a number of "admin_level shouldn't be 4" on the
> borderline of England (without telling what it should be ("what do
> I try next, 8?") ).
> A French guy on the GPS list said that those POIs saved him
> money. But I won't fight for that ;-)
>
>> On the other hand it would be possible to join them to the ways,
>> since the ways need to be split anyway as the maxspeed changes there.
> Ouch. They are POIs, so, often near the middle of the way,
> probably at a school door.
> The best you could do is extend them by 100 m both side.
> That would mean that the POIs' data wouldn't be flashing, that
> nobody would care to check and that real bogus data would have
> been introduced.
>> Kaly nychta,
> Avrio to proï, Gèrètè ( don' t know much). добрый вечер. пока.
>
>
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
>> <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>
>>
>> On 2012-11-21 14:47, Sander Deryckere wrote :
>>> Always take some time, you knew that uploading 1000 POI
>>> wasn't going to be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Uploading bugs to OpenStreetBugs is very easy. A few lines
>>> of bash or perl code would do
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API_0.6#addPOIexec
>> I'm sorry not to always make every answer personal.
>>
>> I have just been round correcting a 20+ bugs of OSB over a
>> rather large area (low density).
>> Most of what I did was erasing the requests because they had
>> already been corrected outside OSB, even 1 or 2 years ago.
>> Other bugs were saying things like "priority is the other
>> way" without thinking that if it was corrected outside OSB
>> too, doing what is said would set the priority wrong again.
>> On the other hand, we have just heard of Teddy: kudos, Teddy:
>>> I have worked with http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ hto fix
>>> error of routing. 2 months of work and hundreds of roads
>>> have been corrected in Wallonia and in the surrounding area.
>>> Pffff, it is well advanced...
>> New crater on Earth.
>> <http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.23069&lat=50.14893&zoom=8&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5,unconnected_minor1,unconnected_minor2,unconnected_minor5>
>> This is why I believe more in OSMI/OSMOSE than in OSB.
>>
>>> But the problem isn't in uploading to OSB or OSM, it's
>>> checking if there isn't already a speed limit present. The
>>> OSM database shouldn't be filled with duplicate data if the
>>> data is already okay. For OSB, this might be less of a
>>> problem, but it's still not wanted.
>> As I have just explained, someone finding an already
>> corrected problem is just half surprised, the less if he is
>> warned why, and he feels like working terribly fast ;)
>> I betcha some would rush
>>> Does anyone see a way on how to achieve this?
>> Да. Jo the Polyglot, WinFixIT at gmail.com
>> <mailto:WinFixIT at gmail.com> as he wrote this afternoon
>>
>> On 2012-11-21 16:53, Jo wrote :
>>> I may have a way to upload them to OSB. The API is indeed
>>> quite accessible. In order to take out the ones that are
>>> already in the OSM data, I can download all the maxspeed=30
>>> with Overpass API and remove the ones which have end nodes
>>> near to them.
>>>
>>> I'll see what I can do with some help from PostGIS.
>>>
>>> Polyglot
>>
>> I'm standing by, finger on the trigger. When you want.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
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