[OSM-talk-be] Routing view
Joren DC
joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
Wed Sep 5 11:00:49 UTC 2012
Georges,
Bedankt voor je antwoord.
Ik ben een standaard Firefox gebruiker. Heb net even geprobeerd met
Chrome .. en als ik het uiteinde van de weg sleep naar een andere baan
... wordt die baan niet blauw of licht die niet op of snapt hij er niet
naartoe... Zowel niet met Chrome als Firefox.
Heb het net even geprobeerd met JOSM
Is mijn werkwijze goed?:
- uiteinde weg selecteren
- 'j'-toets drukken
- (als j-toets niet werkt sleep ik het uiteinde van de weg iets dichter
en probeer ik het nogeens; werkt vrij vlot).
Enkel moet ik steeds zoeken op JOSM naar de straat waar die website naar
verwijst:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5
Is er geen eenvoudigere weg om meteen naar deze bugs te springen in
JOSM? In potlatch ging het snel, puur om het feit dat bij elke bug een
snelkoppeling stond naar openstreetmap.org.
Groet,
Joren
Op 5/09/12 12:41, Georges De Gruyter schreef:
> Joren,
>
> Met MacOSX heb ik het minste problemen bij het editen met Chrome.
> Potlatch durft bij Safari wel eens vastlopen bij het editen.
>
> Mvg,
> Georges
>
> 2012/9/5 Joren DC <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>
> I'll look at it! Thank Jo.
>
> Maybe I don't get a blue 'lining' because of my browser (Firefox
> 16 (beta)) or OS (Mac OSX 10.8.1)?
>
> Kind regards,
> Joren
>
> Op 5/09/12 08:54, Jo schreef:
>> This is quite odd. When I try it with Potlatch, the target road
>> gets a blue 'lining', whether there is a target node or not.
>>
>> I'll work on a little video tutorial for JOSM tonight. I already
>> created some for more complicated stuff in this channel:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/yoyo77777yoyo
>>
>> There is no sound. Some have captions, but unfortunately many of
>> the shortcut keys were changed over the past few months.
>>
>> b instead of w to create a building
>> del instead of d to delete what is selected
>> x is still extrude, but it's more efficient to double click to
>> add a node on a building contour (while in extrude mode) than to
>> add it with a, then select it with s. (so I have also been
>> learning since I created those videos)
>>
>> j will do what you want to do: join a node to the nearest way(s)
>> m will merge two or more nodes. The last node that was added to
>> the selection is the one that will remain
>> g will detach a node from a way
>> c will combine two ways
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2012/9/5 Joren DC <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>
>> The problem is that it doesn't 'change appearence'. When I
>> just drag the road to the other road, it wouldn't snap to a
>> point ... because the target road has no node to snap to. :s
>> I think I'm stuck right now.
>>
>> If you find some free time to send a link for a JOSM
>> walkthrough (to connect roads)?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Joren
>>
>> Op 5/09/12 00:12, Jo schreef:
>>> I just tried it once more. It's not needed to have node on
>>> the way you want to connect to. As soon as it 'changes
>>> appearance', you can release the mouse button. Usually you
>>> still want to remove the node you started from by selecting
>>> it and pressing 'del'.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping out fixing the map.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2012/9/5 Joren DC <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for investing your time :-).
>>>
>>> My method as I thought you meant:
>>>
>>> - I make sure there is a note on my connection point
>>> - I clicked on the unconnected road
>>> - Then clicked on the end of my selected road to select
>>> the last note
>>> - I draw a 'new' streetline from the end of the selected
>>> road to a note (I made in step 1).
>>>
>>> I found these unconnected roads by Johan C.'s link:
>>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Joren
>>>
>>> Op 4/09/12 23:58, Jo schreef:
>>>> I'll look into them in detail tomorrow. You probably
>>>> did more or less what I said for Potlatch, but some
>>>> nodes still need to be removed and sometimes the ways
>>>> need to be concatenated (samengevoegd). Which I might
>>>> have forgotten to mention.
>>>>
>>>> Jo
>>>>
>>>> 2012/9/4 Joren DC <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>>>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>>>
>>>> That will be very helpful. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> What did I wrong with my edits? I'm sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Joren
>>>>
>>>> Op 4/09/12 23:52, Jo schreef:
>>>>> I would love to tell you yes, but there are still
>>>>> some issues...
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, how do you find those unconnected ways?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you like I'll create a 'screencast' (a
>>>>> recording of an editing session) with JOSM to show
>>>>> how to accomplish what you try to do. I see you
>>>>> are also adding bus routes. That too is a lot
>>>>> easier with JOSM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/9/4 Joren DC <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>>>>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To be sure: am I doing it right?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/D!zzy/edits
>>>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/D%21zzy/edits>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't like to mess things up :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Joren
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 4/09/12 22:55, Jo schreef:
>>>>>> OK, I tried it. You select the end node which
>>>>>> gives you a red dashed line, move it over the
>>>>>> node and the nodes of the target way become blue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My advice though: get used to the more
>>>>>> powerful tool in the box. It's worth it later on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/9/4 Joren DC
>>>>>> <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>>>>>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, I use Potlatch 2. But I
>>>>>> installed JOSM a while ago. I'll try it
>>>>>> with JOSM, but I'm not that familiar with
>>>>>> JOSM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Joren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 4/09/12 22:44, Jo schreef:
>>>>>>> Which editor are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With JOSM you select the endnode first,
>>>>>>> then the node you want to connect it to,
>>>>>>> while holding Ctrl of Shift, then m for
>>>>>>> merge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Potlatch I'm not sure. Somebody else
>>>>>>> will surely will be able to help you
>>>>>>> with that one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/9/4 Joren DC
>>>>>>> <joren.libreoffice at telenet.be
>>>>>>> <mailto:joren.libreoffice at telenet.be>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I have a question about this
>>>>>>> topic: when I try to connect the
>>>>>>> road by dragging its end to the
>>>>>>> connection point, it doesn't snap to
>>>>>>> the other road... How to let it snap?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Joren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 4/09/12 22:17, Johan C schreef:
>>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Belgium is slowly starting to look
>>>>>>>> a bit red again:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.02744&lat=50.79917&zoom=9&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are all unconnected ways
>>>>>>>> which will cause routing errors in
>>>>>>>> any navigation device based on OSM.
>>>>>>>> Is anybody willing to remove these
>>>>>>>> red dots in his/her province?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/6/3 Sander Deryckere
>>>>>>>> <sanderd17 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:sanderd17 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It looks like, in half a month,
>>>>>>>> that most problems are gone
>>>>>>>> now. At least almost all
>>>>>>>> problems concerning routability
>>>>>>>> for cars are gone, and the
>>>>>>>> others are also diminishing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again for mentioning
>>>>>>>> this here. We do a lot better
>>>>>>>> than the UK now, and even
>>>>>>>> better than some parts in Germany.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Sander
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/5/15 Johan C
>>>>>>>> <osmned at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:osmned at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, is anyone familiar with
>>>>>>>> this site:
>>>>>>>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=4.32973&lat=50.82125&zoom=9
>>>>>>>> showing several hundred
>>>>>>>> routing problems in Belgium?
>>>>>>>>
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