[OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways

[Marc Gemis]

For the first two examples there is no doubt that there are still "remains"
of a railway, but
I still wonder whether it makes much sense to leave the railway tag on this

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.1060394346714&lon=4.379757642745972&zoom=17

especially on the parking area and to a lesser extend in the first part
parallel to Voetweg 32.
If the line was not on the map, I would never have known that there has
been a railway. I don't know of any visual clues there.

Of course the Spoorweglaan gives away that there used to be a railway :-)



On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, highway and cycleway should not share any ways. The only thing which
> may be acceptable is reusing the same nodes for two different ways, but
> only if they are on exactly the same location, which is actually quite
> rare. In quite a lot of cases there will be an offset, or it will diverge a
> little bit from the original railway track.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This means that the separate track should be removed for the 3 cases I
>> listed, or not ?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, André Pirard <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  On 2013-04-13 23:02, Marc Gemis wrote :
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> So why two lines for an abandoned railway and the cycleway/footway on it
>>> ? Can't they be combined ?
>>>
>>>
>>> What to do is explained in the OSM wiki at ... Railways<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railways>
>>>
>>> Abandoned - The track has been removed and the line may have been reused
>>> or left to decay but is still clearly visible, either from the replacement
>>> infrastructure, or purely from a line of trees around an original cutting
>>> or embankment. Use railway<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway>
>>> =abandoned <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned>.
>>> Where it has been reused as a cycle path then add highway<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>
>>> =cycleway <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway>.
>>> Consider adding a end_date<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:end_date>
>>> =* tag or more specifically a railway:end_date<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:railway:end_date&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>> =* tag.
>>>
>>> It applies even if it now looks like a cycleway or anything but if you
>>> can still clearly see where the railway has been.  If Mapnik, Garmin or
>>> other doesn't display or use that correctly, they say that you must file a
>>> renderer bug.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>   André.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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