[OSM-talk-be] Address stats in Belgium

[Marc Gemis]

Maybe I should start using the fixaddresses plugin
I've been using the plugins terracer, building tool, etc. for over 1 1/2
year. I even wrote a page on it:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Escada/JOSM_and_Housenumbers  :-)

But now that I have a python script to convert my GPX trails, they do not
fit perfectly in my workflow. I start from nodes that are tagged with
building=house and addr:housenumber=XXX (after importing my modified GPX
trail). I still use the terrace plugin to split though. I do use the
stylesheets too.

Did you try looking up businesses represented as nodes in buildings with
address information ? Nomatim does not understand this (I think). Should we
map for Nomatim, not sure ...




On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be> wrote:

> On 04/16/2013 10:08 AM, Marc Gemis wrote:
>
>> I never put address details on sheds or garages.
>>
> Didn't mean to sound like you did.  I actually did in the past by not
> paying enough attention to the plugins,  I'm in the process of fixing this
> btw :)
>
>
>> The building=house is on the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**
>> wiki/Map_Features#Building<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Building>page. That's as official as it can get for me.
>>
> Sorry, I had to check before talking.  The building key is open for free
> tagging I think anyway, so it would not be an error anyway if it's not on
> there (yet).
>
>  Also use building=apartment whenever I can/remember/wrote down.
>>
> nice suggestion, I'm going to start doing this too.
>
>
>
>> I did use AGIV for some of my more recent "expeditions". Unfortunately,
>> it did not help me in a few cases. I had numbers from mailboxes on the
>> street, but didn't know the houses (in private area). AGIV had none of them.
>>
> you probably know this , I noticed only the deepest zoom level has all the
> numbers they know about. But I second that it's not the address bible I
> first thought it would be.
>
>
>> With my new workflow (address nodes generated from GPX waypoints), I
>> first have them in a separate layer. I use the lasso tool to select all
>> nodes in 1 street. Then add street (but could easily add city, country,
>> postcode) as well to the whole selection.
>>
> I pretty much do the same using nodes.  But then I use the terracer
> plugin,  it's not only awesome to split houses in 1-2-n pieces but you just
> select a street + an addr node and a building and press SHIFT-T.  It will
> put the street name in the the building tags.
>
> Next I use fixaddresses to complete the other tags, some logic is used to
> auto-guess the streets, which sometimes fails miserably but all the rest is
> filled out for you and most of it is correct, it just needs a human to
> apply the guesses/changes.
>
>
>  No need for any of the plugins. But I used them before (for the work in
>> Aartselaar e.g.).
>>
> Not convinced yet I see :)
>
>
>> A question regarding houses without numbers (e.g. churches, libraries,
>> ...)  The official address is e.g. Kerkstraat z/n
>> How is that mapped ? addr:housenumber = z/n does not sound correct to me.
>>
>
> I would omit the housenumber, that's what I do.   tagging it as 'z/n' is
> the same as putting an imaginary number on it, e.g. it's an error.  What I
> find difficult is buildings with an address containing a business
> (shop/amenity) with a separate address from the building (or the same
> sometimes, but the building itself has several numbers).   There I see the
> merit of not duplicating data...  I eventually settled for tagging the
> adress information on the building (less likely do disapear) and putting
> the amenity within the building border (and try to remove existing
> duplicate address data on that node).
>
> Businesses are far more likely to be gone in 10 years than buildings, when
> you put the address data on the node instead of the building, chances are
> great that the address info will be deleted too in the process.  But
> putting the same address info  on both (I tried some localy - it's ugly and
> I need it fixed soon) is very ugly on the map (duplicate housenumbers
> visible).    It makes sense for me, when the shop is gone, you can remove
> the node entirely, and all address info related to the building is still
> there.
>
>
> Glenn
>
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