[OSM-talk-be] question on relation 2404021

[André Pirard]

On 2013-11-03 14:04, Marc brassieres wrote :
>
> 2013/11/3 André Pirard <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
> <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>
>
>     On 2013-11-03 01:00, André Pirard wrote :
>>     On 2013-11-02 23:04, marc bessieres wrote :
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     After starting updating the wiki on quality assurance tools. I
>>>     spent some time correcting the issues in Brussels.
>>>     Now I start finding issues I don't have enough knowledge to fix
>>>     alone.
>>>     I assume it is better to send a mail per issue, so I start here
>>>     with:
>>>     http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/240402
>>>
>>>     There is a FIXME in it before its boundaries are not complete.
>>>
>>>     For me it looks a lot like:
>>>     http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/58274
>>>
>>>     which has a complete boundary.
>>>     But one is Bruxelles, and the other is Ville de Bruxelles.
>>>
>>>     I must admit I don't understand the differences.
>>>
>>>     My idea would be to merge the extra data of  the former into the
>>>     latter. And remove the former.
>>>     But as they are each in the relation of the other I may miss
>>>     something or someone would have done the merge already, so here
>>>     I am asking for a piece of advice.
>>>
>>>     What should be done with:
>>>     http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/240402
>>>
>>>     Thank you in advance,
>>>     Marc
>>>
>>
>>     You should certainly not delete anything before you have fully
>>     understood the very complicated administrative structures of our
>>     country ;-)  You may notice that we have two Belgiums.
>>     Notice that those boundaries are administrative level 8 and level
>>     9, certainly not the same thing and that doing as you say is
>>     destroying.
>>     I have mapped thousands of kilometers of boundaries in Belgium
>>     and I might have a closer look at that if you want, but not just
>>     right now.  Boundaries are complicated things.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     André.
>>
>>
>     *
>     Ville/Stad* de Bruxelles is in fact a *Commune/Gemeente* made of 4
>     anciennes communes/deelgemeenten Brussels, La(e)ken,
>     Neder-Over-Heembeek and Haren.
>     What you see incomplete is the first one, but the other ones are
>     incomplete too.
>     The boundaries between them are missing. They must be added with
>     the right name and the four boundaries must be closed over them.
>     My only problem is finding the missing pieces if I do that, but I
>     know where to look for them.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     André.
>
>
> Thank you André for your explanations, I saw the administrative level
> difference, but I didn't know how to interpret them. Now I do :)
> If you could find the missing boundaries it'd be perfect! Or tell us
> where to look for them, may be me or someone else in the community can
> help there.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
I found the missing borderlines and I replied:
> ... I added:
> Way: Ville de Bruxelles — Laeken (244722347)
> Way: Ville de Bruxelles — Neder-Over-Heembeek (244722351)
> Way: Ville de Bruxelles — Haren (244691260)
> Way: Laeken — Neder-Over-Heembeek (244722346)
> Way: Haren — Neder-Over-Heembeek (244722345)
As nobody used those borderlines, I finished the job myself.
I added the missing relations for the Brussels municipality sections
(level 9).
I corrected various errors, including a gap in Brussels Capital borderline.

Cheers,

André.


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