[OSM-talk-be] "Inventarisatie Trage Wegen"

[Wouter Hamelinck]

The vzw/asbl Trage Wegen knows about the existence of OSM. In June
2011 there was a workshop about OSM on one of their activities. You
can take a look in the archives for some discussion about it:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2011-June/date.html

At that point they where mainly looking for a way to store their own
data and publicize on their website. Of course using OSM as your
internal db is not a good plan. I think they are interested in making
the existing network as well known as possible and inclusion in OSM is
a good tool for that. However, they are less copyright-savvy than us.
Mainly they use the NGI/IGN maps on scale 1:10000 as a background for
drawing. This makes most of their data derived from closed data (they
don't really care too much if that is allowed) and not directly
compatible with OSM. I remember that at that time they had a
cooperation with RouteYou for publishing their data online. Don't ask
me details, but I think this pushed them to using Google Maps as
background at that time.

For the mapping that Zemst is now planning, OSM is not what you need.
You need to start with drawing potential paths (that might not exist
anymore, hence should not be in OSM). Then, look on the ground what
still exists and distinguish according to accessibility. So you need
some metadata that doesn't really fit into OSM and also are stuck with
no longer existing paths. We really don't want all their drafts in the
db. That's something they should do on their own dataset (which can
use OSM as a background or even as a base of course).

What would be interesting for all, in my opinion, is making sure that
the path from the finished map are actually present in OSM. The
motivation for them is simply that putting the paths on a widely used
map is a very good way of promoting them. However, you need a simple
straightforward way that is accessible for the elderly and not only
for the script wizards on this list. And this is the point where you
usually get stuck.

wouter

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> It's seems that our municipality is asking for some public mapping aid of
> some sort.  Please check this page, I would love to bring OpenStreetMaps to
> their attention, I have a feeling that they aren't even aware of it's
> existence looking at the sort of help they ask for.
>
> http://zemst.be/nl/press/319/inventarisatie-trage-wegen.html
>
> references are made to check this site although no hyperlinks in the
> statement, here it is : http://www.tragewegen.be/
>
> The latter site is extremely slow at the moment.  I've noticed some
> screenshots of OSM maps are being used there.   Do you think we
> can/should/want to be a part of this as a community?
>
> If so, I believe we should join efforts then and send some well written
> inviting mail to bring OSM to their attention?    It would probably save a
> lot of work for lots of people involved.   Does anyone have some 'canned'
> response to these types of initiatives?
>
> What always bothers me about most of these initiatives is that they usually
> 'give up' the data to Google for free so they in turn can start charging for
> it (commercially).   All the while OSM would be such a perfect fit as a tool
> by itself.
>
> Please share your ideas,
>
> Glenn
>
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