[OSM-talk-be] Intro and invitation to Random Hacks of Kindness

[Glenn Plas]

Put some comments in line against web-etiquette
> My "killer" application to show them would be a single website that 
> combines the following functionality:
>
If you really want a killer App, you should make this in HTML5, which 
brings local storage (offline use) and other goodies to make it feel 
like an app on your smartphone, it's cross compatible , so Iphone 
maniaks can use it as wel as Android nuts.  You only develop it once.

> a) walking routes (both knooppunten and local routes) with distance as 
> openwandelkaart.nl <http://openwandelkaart.nl>
> b) background of hikebikemap.de <http://hikebikemap.de> ( I love the 
> hill shading) (and it's faster than openwandelkaart)
> c) route creation as on wandelknooppunt.be <http://wandelknooppunt.be> 
> (not OSM based)
> d) tourist information
>    d1) hotels, pubs, restaurants, attractions with links to their 
> websites & opening hours
>         (see openlinkmap.org <http://openlinkmap.org> and 
> http://www.netzwolf.info/kartografie/osm/time_domain/map_opening)
>    d2) the direct link to mijnlijn for busses (see openlinkmap.org 
> <http://openlinkmap.org>)
>    d3) historic buildings, etc as in 
> http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/ with 
> images, wikipedia links (also in openlinkmap), protected monuments, etc.
>    d4) picnic sites, benches, sidewalks, road quality, other 
> information important to walking/hiking
>
> I would not focus on getting only their data into OSM, (nor De Lijn, 
> nor Onroerend Erfgoed), but show an app that combines all this data 
> with the data we have today. It's the combination of all this data 
> that makes OSM great, not the individual pieces that each institute 
> has themselves.
>

Pretty good idea, I could actually do this, just trying to get my head 
around the good old 'time' problem. points a, d1, d2, d3, d4 could be 
easily done.  That's what amenity's are for.  Extracting the OSM data to 
support this is quite trivial with Overpass API.

The opening hours is probably a more difficult part to tackle, there are 
plenty of sites that deliver this, but where that data comes from, if it 
is accurate and up to date is a big '?'-mark.  I'm sure OSM data isn't 
as detailed enough for this.

Concerning points: b and c, that will require figuring out where that 
background comes from and look into some policies.   Route creation, I'm 
not sure why you mention not OSM based, but what I do know is that there 
are quite some awesome open source routing implementations around that 
could generate this..  Perhaps I don't quite get your idea behind it (Do 
we 'invent' some routes, or do we just stock up known trails to follow).

The only non-technical thing I'm wondering about is , do you have some 
sort of business idea behind it.  If it were self-sufficient, so if in 
some way a business model could make this pay for itself (in terms of 
computer power behind it).  Would love to hear it. But in essence, it's 
just taking the very best stuff out of those different sites and mash it 
into something better.

Glenn
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