[OSM-talk-be] speed cameras

[Glenn Plas]

On 07-02-14 10:44, Jo wrote:
> Recently I noticed the speed cameras I've been adding a few years ago 
> at exactly the positions they are (next to the street of couse, lest 
> drivers would bump into them) have become part of the highways.
>
> So I'm in the process of correcting that once again. I also corrected 
> the wiki. Now it's up to the developers of OsmAND to properly use the 
> node with the from role from the enforcement relation as it was meant 
> to be used. Otherwise the users of this great software will not be 
> very happy, when they don't get warnings anymore, due to a faulty 
> implementation wrt the way information is converted between our way of 
> tagging and their representation of it.
>
> If it's too hard to work with those relations, it will be necessary to 
> make an interpolation from the camera to the highway to determine a 
> virtual node.
>
> Those enforcement relations were invented years ago because when one 
> adds a speedcam as a node on the way, one can't know in what direction 
> it's pointing and for which direction of traffic a warning is needed.
>
> I consider what has happened here as an unfortunate step backwards, 
> causing information loss.
>
> Another problem we have is that some users who are using OSMAND like 
> osmand_pieter don't respond to messages we send them about the faults 
> in their way of tagging. It's not clear whether this is related to 
> OSMAND itself.
>
> I also didn't try with iD yet. Hopefully this is not something caused 
> by that editor.

Hi Jo,

I agree , it's demotivating to say the least.  He just keeps adding 
camera's as if he things they aren't any there.  There is no response on 
my messages either.  It' concentrated in our area in fact (from mechelen 
- BXL - Leuven triangle), probably why we keep seeing that duplicate 
information come in.   Sometimes there is some maxspeed information 
added.  which is the only reason I actually try to merge his 'work' 
instead of just deleting it.  I'm not to far away from doing such a move.

Perhaps you tried to forget the editor wars from a wile ago as fast as I 
wanted, but someone correctly pointed oud that it's probably not OSMAND 
that does it,  it is however present in his username which kind of 
sounds like some default suggestion is responsible for this.  We'll 
never know.

I'm very annoyed by this duplicate work personally

Glenn