[OSM-talk-be] TEC & Open Data: let's start !

[André Pirard]

Hi,

I'm conducting an offline TEC conversation business with Jo and I'm
impressed.
You will soon be able to confidently buy TEC tickets and use the OSM
transport map ;-)

I have just two tag remarks.

For the third time (Julien), if we want to use URLs, we'd better use URLs.
network=tec-wl.be is not an URL as you can see by not being able to
click on it here <http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/857875464>.
network=http://tec-wl.be is one as you can see by being able to click on
it here <http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1645537259>.

I recommend adding   *source=survey 2014-06  TEC 2014-04*
Much like Key:source <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source>
indicates and I am presently proposing to amend slightly as shown below.

The bulk import scenario was clearly written with in mind the idea to
maintain a remaining-to do TEC file.

Suppose an *.osm file is built from an imported source.  The map
contributors are requested to move/update  the map elements to osm.org
after verifications such as coordinates.  If the *.osm map elements
contain a survey value such as source=survey <import-date>, then a
program can find out by checking for an equal or later survey date what
map elements have been moved/updated to osm.org and hence build a
remaining.osm file containing what remains to be done.  A FIXME can be
added at import time to already existing osm.org elements to warn about
the ongoing import.

Cheers,

André.


> Following this discussion here is a proposed clarification to
> Key:source <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source>.
> The goal is to define the word, make date mandatory, use ISO format,
> define per source tag meaning.
> Is there any objection or suggestion for changes?
>
> *survey* yyyy-mm[-dd] (with one blank and an /ISO/ 8601
> <http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iso.org%2Fiso%2Ffr%2Fhome%2Fstandards%2Fiso8601.htm&ei=X3qZU_CEPNHR4QT34YGwCg&usg=AFQjCNHMm5_cA8CzTjEvrWYQc5GZ9K1wLg&sig2=m6xdSXuaBGqt6Qlj0tCfTw&bvm=bv.68911936,d.bGE>
> format date) can be used within the data of any source.KEY=* or
> source=* tag to indicate that, on that date, the source(s) of KEY were
> the most recent and the data was verified to be correct for that KEY.
> In source=*,  survey means the same for all possible (required) keys
> (even those absent by default), but it can be overridden by survey in
> some source.KEY tags. survey helps to avoid making already done
> verifications, especially because a source publication date is not a
> verification date. survey can contain the date of dateless sources
> like visual or knowledge. It can help humanly assisted bulk imports.
> Please update the survey date of what you verify (a substantial time
> later), even if you don't add survey dates yourself.

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